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[EI-GYRO]

Apropos of nothing; the BBC news website carried an article the other day saying we needed another word for women's 'whatever'. Why they thought this, I don't know, as there is a limit to the click-bait I will react to.
On reflection, however, I thought 'The Oval Orifice' might be appropriate.

 

[hillberg]

the tolerant left continues to melt down...Seems that 56 organizations in that womans march was all tied into George Soros's Open Society Foundation, the same guy behind Obama & Clinton - His currency manipulation has him banned the world over. Need to give Soros to Putin as a peace offering.

 

[All_In]

It clearly discriminates on the basis of national origin. That said, I believe immigration law has this element of discrimination in it already by setting limits of immigration from each country.

My personal opinion is the US should be far more selective about who it allows in this country. Given the number of folks we have on welfare, do we really need more folks without special skills? I've go no problems with doctors, engineers, entrepreneurs, ect. The basic question should be: is this immigration candidate good for the country.

Hi Chris
Good points.
Make it that only attorneys can immigrate and the laws and wall will be built!
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If you look back in history IIRC the past presidents have always only restricted immigration by national origin during times of war EG WWII = Japan and Germany. It's not something I've studied much.

How else would you restrict it?

I ask myself why no one was upset when the Obama administration created the list in the first place of countries to watch more closely where you could buy a password and visa from a government official saying you are anyone you wish to be.. Yet no one said a thing and no one call it discrimination or
Obama a racist for creating the list in the 1st place?

 

[All_In]

>Your post = "Lets just choose what law to obey" was right on!

Interstate gambling is prohibited by law and a violation of federal tax code.

Pot. Kettle. Kettle. Pot.

Hi Larry
A friend can buy you lottery tickets and send them to you and it takes a special kind of person to go after a charity is what I was told by the fed's.

 

[WaspAir]

the tolerant left continues to melt down...Seems that 56 organizations in that womans march was all tied into George Soros's Open Society Foundation, the same guy behind Obama & Clinton - His currency manipulation has him banned the world over. Need to give Soros to Putin as a peace offering.

Soros can't get millions to march because of "ties" to organizations, and you can't paint everybody with that brush. People were there because they had something to say, and that was one way to say it. I was downtown and saw the march in San Jose; from all I heard, the crowd was not talking about Obama or Clinton. They were urging rights for women, and concerned that Trump appears to them to be hostile to those rights. Small surprise after hearing him boast about grabbing women by their private parts.

You can try to discount the dissent by blaming it on some spurious connection to people you don't like, but it won't change the simple facts; millions of people were upset enough to take it to the streets.

One might as well claim that all the Trump voters were in the pockets of the Koch Brothers, and had ties to the KKK. It's nonsense to attribute motives that way. People with no KKK connection supported Trump; people with no connection to anybody you fear or despise marched for women's rights.

 

[All_In]

The caterwauling of the radical left and their media allies makes a lot of noise.

Of the cable news channels, CNN and MSNBC were aggressively pro Clinton; Fox, according to some, was pro Trump.

According to the latest Nielsen ratings, Fox was #1 for prime time viewers, MSNBC was #9 and CNN was #11.

The lemmings are going over the cliff.

https://www.medialifemagazine.com/this-weeks-cable-ratings/

Hi Chuck
Even the CNN anchors was apologizing for CNN on fox news and pointed out the New York Times saying they have changed from being the watch dogs to outright supporters on Clinton in the last election.

 

[anthom]

IMHO, for better or for worse, Trump is here to stay. It seems that most of the world hates his guts, and he is not a politician. In the business world, it is results that matter. In the political world, I feel it will be good for those entering politics to pass an IQ test first.

I heard on the news what the likes of Ashley Judd and Madonna had to say. Disgusting.

Bottom line is, if he can improve the economy and the safety and security of our country he'll be a winner, no matter what anyone has to say.

 

[WaspAir]

The perfect solution:

Use the 6-7 billion from SS to build the wall. Double-plus-good idea, and the Mexicans will have paid for it !!!!!!!

What's not to like?

Clever ! I think we have an open cabinet post or two that you might be qualified for.

(Don't worry - you don't need any experience; Betsy DeVos doesn't have any but she got approved as Secretary of Education today.)

 

[EI-GYRO]

Clever ! I think we have an open cabinet post or two that you might be qualified for.

(Don't worry - you don't need any experience; Betsy DeVos doesn't have any but she got approved as Secretary of Education today.)

I wouldn't qualify; I'm not a billionaire. I'm not an ex-GoldmanSachs executive,
I don't have a gun, I'm an atheist, I'm a Socialist, and I believe in democratic
values. I'm not so good at sucking up to AUTHORITAY.....

BREAKING NEWS; I just saw Bill O'Reilly giving DT a rough time on the subject of
FACTS. FACTS, I say, as if THEY mattered.

However, I am looking forward to the Deplorables of the Basketcase making sure their fellow travellers rain down benevolence, goodwill and lots of their money
on the adoring multitude.

Finally, I have a theory about why DT has trouble descending stairs and slopes.
Malaysian elephants have this problem. It is because their head is so big
they will overbalance.

They should give Betsy a job in the education system. Janitor in the school
with the grizzly problem. Her and LaPierre, with one Derringer between them.

 

[hillberg]

Soros can't get millions to march because of "ties" to organizations, and you can't paint everybody with that brush. People were there because they had something to say, and that was one way to say it. I was downtown and saw the march in San Jose; from all I heard, the crowd was not talking about Obama or Clinton. They were urging rights for women, and concerned that Trump appears to them to be hostile to those rights. Small surprise after hearing him boast about grabbing women by their private parts.

You can try to discount the dissent by blaming it on some spurious connection to people you don't like, but it won't change the simple facts; millions of people were upset enough to take it to the streets.

One might as well claim that all the Trump voters were in the pockets of the Koch Brothers, and had ties to the KKK. It's nonsense to attribute motives that way. People with no KKK connection supported Trump; people with no connection to anybody you fear or despise marched for women's rights.

nothing happens without $$$$ don't you think its odd that a 1/4 of the organizations organized for DC were directly connected with Open Society Foundation? or the signage being the same looking batches , transportation etc.costs $$$ - Soros used the same tactics in other countries to manipulate the currency markets. He made a billion profit with the British Pound alone. next was Hong Kong , Hungry and Russian monies. documented to such a point that several countries ban him. his ties with Obama and Hillary are what they are. can't deny Soros's hand in the marches. A few handlers in Furgasen, DC, Los Angeles and else where and you too can wag the dog.

The March was actually a degrading event for women the ones I've known for years said it was an insult , Most didn't have a clue to why they were marching other then the collective hate.

 

[LGoodhind]

re; Soros

He also cornered the market on pink yarn and sent it to the child trafficking knitting sweatshops under the pizza parlors without basements.

re; Special people harassing charities, following the law, etc.

It takes a special person to handcuff a 5 year old but that sort of thing happens. Guidestar.org lists 1,271 Islamic charities. Based on their own words it seems plenty here would cheerfully contact an AG, IRS, USPS or other agency to try and give them grief without bothering to find out if what they were saying was even true as long as a story showed up on Daily Caller.

Illinois doesn't allow Internet raffle sales (called out in state law) and they along with eight other states don't allow interstate purchases of such tickets. The IRS is “nope” and the post office likewise recognizes that when you have the trifecta of prizes, chance, and consideration ($'s) it's called gambling.

Motives? Disgruntled at leadership, lost a loved one, believes the class/type is a GA black eye, thought the org was taking potential membership away from their own, a manufacturer who wants to create its own eco system, etc. I’ve seen all those special people in the last 25 years- you didn’t? A clerk telling you that "I bought the ticket for a friend I'd never met" is as sketchy as it sounds.

What got over the hump of my posting impulse control issue is that you were going on (pages) about how laws needed to be enforced when I'd been trying to tell you for weeks that you're breaking a serious one that puts the assets of the organization and your treasurer at risk. It’s a button.

I was a Bernie fan so while some of the populism arguments work for me (H1Bs; bet those keep flowing) the days of finding middle ground are long gone. The consortiums that grant R party power demand following a pretty goofy shifting agenda where (just one example of many) weather can't rise to understandable science worth study while zero day geopolitical leadership is a simple common sense effort requiring no preparation beyond a willingness to iconoclastically trash our allies and institutions while bizarrely kissing up to a sad parade of president-for-life types.

Honestly have no idea why you seem surprised the people you all appear so contemptuous of are freaked out by the whole mess. I’ll get back on with the just walk away 12-step program and leave you to it- the wood floor won’t nail itself. Ka-thunk.

 

[WaspAir]

nothing happens without $$$$ don't you think its odd that a 1/4 of the organizations organized for DC were directly connected with Open Society Foundation? or the signage being the same looking batches , transportation etc.costs $$$ - Soros used the same tactics in other countries to manipulate the currency markets. He made a billion profit with the British Pound alone. next was Hong Kong , Hungry and Russian monies. documented to such a point that several countries ban him. his ties with Obama and Hillary are what they are. can't deny Soros's hand in the marches. A few handlers in Furgasen, DC, Los Angeles and else where and you too can wag the dog.

The March was actually a degrading event for women the ones I've known for years said it was an insult , Most didn't have a clue to why they were marching other then the collective hate.

I don't think we're living on the same planet.

Fantasize about this all you want, and believe that it was a conspiracy of a few powerful people so that you can dismiss its importance, but I personally know two dozen women who marched in four different cities, including some who flew from CA to DC just to do so (all at their own personal expense), plus I attended one of them in person, and frankly, your "facts" have nothing to do with reality. The marchers were no more mindless pawns of Soros than you are a mindless pawn of Trump. Soros doesn't have Svengali-like sway over millions of women and their male supporters, any more than you let Steve Bannon tell you what to think.

This reminds me of the old refrain from half a century ago, during the seminal years of the civil rights movement, when every protest was blamed not on genuine grievances but on "outside agitators", so that the grievances would not appear to be genuine. The protest was real. It was not manufactured by Soros. Dissatisfaction doesn't go away just because you have an alternative explanation for it that suits the way you wish the world would be. The majority of American voters didn't just disappear or decide to give up on their principles when the electoral college went the way of the minority; they're still here, still vote, and still march. If you can't see that, it's because you don't want to.

 

[EI-GYRO]

I don't think we're living on the same planet.

You are right. He gives his location as 'Low Earth Orbit'.

The very notion that one man can tell 1.5+ women what to do is patently ridiculous.

 

[bryancobb]

I struggle to "get it."

I struggle to "get it."

...flew from CA to DC just to do so (all at their own personal expense)...

I have about 3 political topics that I view as so important, I would argue with a total stranger over them.

* Patriotism and flag desecration
* Abortion
* Poor treatment of Veterans

I can`t even imagine what would get a Californian so agitated that they would take time off work, buy an airplane ticket across the country, and walk up and down the Washington streets protesting an idea that is not even defined. What was one or two themes of the marches?

I would never take time off work, buy an airplane ticket across the country, and walk up and down the Washington streets protesting any of my tree topics above.

I felt the same way toward the "Tea-Party" folks, and THEIR issues were clearly defined. What do these folks do for a living that makes them wealthy enough to travel around and participate in protests that will never amount to much. Where`s the Tea-Party these days? All that effort was wasted and is now on the Trash-Heap of History.

I just don`t get it.

 

[ckurz7000]

One thing a lot of people over here (Austria) don't get is this: why would someone not well off trust a multi billionair to care about his problems. How did this multi billionair get his billions? Who paid his wages?

There seems to be a cultural difference in how wealth is perceived between Austria and the US. Over here, someone wealthy is usually approached with suspicion. In the US wealth is somehow perceived as an achievement, a merit which predisposes someone to be trusted.

Mind you, this is not a political observation but a cultural.

-- Chris.

 

[C. Beaty]

Trump and most of his cabinet are independently wealthy and serve their country for $1/year, the legal minimum for a contract. They are unlikely to be selling influence to the highest bidder.

Obama and the Clintons didn’t have two nickels to rub together before becoming professional politicians but are now wealthy. How?

 

[LGoodhind]

My wife marched so I asked-

1) we knew the first thing that would happen is that women would loose their rights;
2) we knew imigrants would loose their rights;
3) ...

Those were promises Donald Trump made.

Larry, I don't want you bringing me in to the conve-- <pause>

<blurt> Women's healthcare! I marched for my mother. (her mom was a public health nurse front line in eradicating polio (antivaxers beware) and worked in migrant camps) We fight for what is right. There is nothing that Donalt Trump has done that indicates he values the contributions of women to society.

"Grab them by the pu$$y" .. casual about sexual assault.

So many things.

We were marching against the sexist a$$hole who was trying to dominate us and we had (have) a lot of reasons.

There. She tried to stop talking too and couldn't. We can't .. none of us can any more. Glad it is not just me.

You guys sure know how to reap a whirlwind if you can rev up this many people.

>I would never take time off work, buy an airplane ticket across the country, and walk up and down the Washington streets protesting any of my tree topics above.

Maybe he should. Particularly veteran's rights.

IMO telling ElizabethW to quiet down, as a woman, shows just how cluelessly arrogant the R leadership is. #ShePersisted

Chris- until recently we had a very strong middle class and the upper end of the wealth spectrum was much lower. Somewhere around the 80's that starts to knee up. Big business has always been the economic engine of the US and when the economy was less stratified you co-operated in that success as much as you cared to (or so we were told) and regardless your share put you in a cohort that was perceived as successful and secure. The people who grew up in this time period have a self-definition built on that foundation and many of their personal success stories couldn't take place in today's world. The hope seems to be that giving the country over to business will let the American people ride along... getting rid of safety nets and low wage immigrants will force people who now rely on government assistance back into a work force that needs fewer workers per capita yearly and where the definition of "skill" is in constant flux. There is also a prosperity cult aspect- blessed by God = wealth. At least that's my read.

 

[Steve_UK]

Larry - thanks for your reply. Sounds to me like your wife summed it up very well, well done to her for taking the time to protest.

I can't see Donald lasting out his full four years.

 

[All_In]

One thing a lot of people over here (Austria) don't get is this: why would someone not well off trust a multi billionair to care about his problems. How did this multi billionair get his billions? Who paid his wages?

There seems to be a cultural difference in how wealth is perceived between Austria and the US. Over here, someone wealthy is usually approached with suspicion. In the US wealth is somehow perceived as an achievement, a merit which predisposes someone to be trusted.

Mind you, this is not a political observation but a cultural.

-- Chris.

Hi Chris
History often explain everything so I look there first!
Most country's history include a class system where most of the land and resources were owned by a upper class. The rich actually suppress wealth accumulation by the masses in most countries history. Hard to trust the old rich families that accutaly kept you in your class\place.
In America bond servents would work for 5 to 7 years in a business for the owner only acquiring room and board. Many of those bond servents learned how to run that type of business and then started their own. Many of those became wealthy. we respect wealth building in America because for 200 years most of the wealthy created it from nothing.

For over a hundred and fifty years America was the best country to create wealth in in the entire world. During much of that time the United States was in the Cold War against socialism. For 50 years Russia and China claimed their system of socialism was Kinder and would create more wealth for their countries. Of course that's not what history taught us. It taught us that the only way to win with socialism is to work less than your neighbor for the same wages and collect more benefits this bankrupted their country because they could not produce as much as capitalistic countries.
Our country kept the highest tax rates in the world and is simply not the best country to keep more of your hard earned income anymore so our companies have left taking there jobds with them. They seem to be thinking that somehow business was just going to come back to the highest tax rates in the wrould as it always had and create more wealth raising all incomes as it has in China.
In an all capitalistic world the only thing a country has to compete with is income tax rates and regulations labor is not as much a factor because the United States can automate labor much cheaper than anybody labor force.

 

[All_In]

...

Chris- until recently we had a very strong middle class and the upper end of the wealth spectrum was much lower. Somewhere around the 80's that starts to knee up. Big business has always been the economic engine of the US and when the economy was less stratified you co-operated in that success as much as you cared to (or so we were told) and regardless your share put you in a cohort that was perceived as successful and secure. The people who grew up in this time period have a self-definition built on that foundation and many of their personal success stories couldn't take place in today's world. The hope seems to be that giving the country over to business will let the American people ride along... getting rid of safety nets and low wage immigrants will force people who now rely on government assistance back into a work force that needs fewer workers per capita yearly and where the definition of "skill" is in constant flux. There is also a prosperity cult aspect- blessed by God = wealth. At least that's my read.

Hi Larry
Thank you for your wife's insite.
The reason the middle class and lower class incomes have not risen is simply supply and demand of jobs. As each company left the United States so they could keep more of their revenue and return it to stockholders they took their jobs with them. Each time a job was taken it created excess Supply of employees. Wages will never raise for the middle class until America creates Millions more jobs and employers have to offer more to keep the best employees or hire the best employees away by offering them more money. Intel America starts focusing on how to create more businesses and jobs the middle-class wages will never raise again at least not by economic forces. The only other way it's just set incredibly High minimum wages and pay for it with tariffs on All Imports costing all the poor more money to live.