Barry T. approached me last fall about doing a 1000' climb together, so we sat down and tossed around some ideas. I wanted 5 gal fuel and a flying start, side x side at 45 mph, like we used to do with our cars on Woodward Avenue in Detroit back in the day. Barry wanted to start on the RW with 1 gal of fuel. I needed some time to let the idea of a SXS climb sink in, mull it over, get used to the idea. Let it simmer for the next 5-6 months.
Friday someone asked me if there was going to be a climb competition, so I went and asked Barry T. if he wanted to go for it. He was all about it, so we headed out together, me following his lead, and he wanted me upwind of him, on the inside lane. He knew he'd have to allow extra time for me to get airborne and we'd discussed how to handicap the 800# TOW, YG4 Air Command Tandem, spinning MUCH longer, slower 28' Dragon Wings, against his hyper-lightened, 500# TOW Dominator Single, spinning 23' DWs, for a fairly fair race.
I mean, a two-seater cross country cruiser against a single that nevers leaves the pattern? C'mon, duh. He'd predicted, back in October, much to my doubt, that at some point my bigger disk pushed with more power could actually overcome his gyro.
As he strolled down the taxiway ahead of me, his little 23 footers started spinning up, then he paused for me to catch up at the hold line. As I rolled up he engaged his Pre-Ro and we headed out to the active, me never braking to make the turns. We lined up and came to a full stop, Barry abeam, spun up and I announced "3-2-1" as my blades hit 135 RRPM, max roll-out for my flat belt, back-side PTO grip before it starts to overheat. Barry was spun up to double that, and jumped into the air immediately as I rolled 500 ft for TO RRPM, Barry side-slipping, well ahead, so he could see me as he waited for me to get airborn to start the shootout. There was no "GO!", we just hit it and pointed skyward from about 10-15 AGL.
By the time I got to where my bird actually starts to fly and climb (150 AGL) he was a good 20-30 ft higher already, but at that point I arrested any further losses to him as his ascent advantage died right there, and I paced him equally to 500 ft.
That's when things got interesting, as Barry's predictions came into focus and I began to realize he might have been right. The Gunslinger began to reel in the Dominator, with plenty or room to go. I don't know when Barry realized I was catching up, but as my engine gets hotter it gets stronger - whereas as his smoker gets hotter it starts to lose power.
At 700' AGL I was looking straight and level, right across at him as we climbed together into the stiff 15-20 MPH wind currents. I never saw him again, and was pleasantly surprised that my Yamaha had just beaten the best of the best, in any class.
I knew there would be hell to pay to my joker friends for the handicapped TO, that just goes with the territory. And like I said, wryly, at dinner for all to hear, looking at Barry T., "There's two people at this table who know what happened today at 700 feet."
And now you know, the REST of the story.
Bottom line: It appears there are two winners, depending on how you want to spin it:
- Barry T. takes short TO to 20 ft AGL, hands down, not even close. In fact, this "Warm Up Lap" was never intended to be part of the race.
- Barry T. wins Climb from 20' to 500' by ~30 ft. visual
- Gregory T. wins climb from 20' to 1000', by ~30 ft. est.
We'll do this some more, hopefully, as it was a real crowd-pleaser to those who caught the inaugeral, impromptu, unannounced, "Shootout of Champions".
Might need to tweak the agreements and "rules" a bit, but all-in-all I think it was an awesome competition. I might even siphon off a few gallons of fuel before TO next time, lose that 18# SS muffler and backpack filled with stuff. Hell, that's a good 50# alone right there I could leave on the ground! Plus I had my cruiser prop on, not my climber. Didn't even bother to bring the other 2 props along.
Video link below:
1000' Climb: Barry Thigpen vs Greg Mills 2024
Here are some screen shots from it: