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How the Hell can you even stand there and say that! you arogant a hole!But, what I'm talking about is he does not in any way help the PRA! Period! .
Ron has been a chapter pres. for many years and I have personanally seen him do way more for PRA and the sport of gyro then almost anyone else.
Dean after that comment you have lost all crediablity in my book all I see from you is crying we need more members. yet you don't even have your eyes open enough to see the real movers and shakers in this sport.
besides being on this forum I have not seen you out personnaly promoteing gyros, for you to stand there and say and i quote " he does not on any way help the PRA period !" just shows to me you are the biggest blindest moron on this forum.
fact is Ron and I barely get along most the time, but FACT IS he has done more over the years to promote Gyros then half the members on here. he has always been willing to talk to people, to show off his gyro and even give free rides to people..
now I ask what have you done!
besides sit here and whine about PRA need more members and try and act like any one that flys a Gyro owes PRA. sorry I don't owe PRA crap! I was into Gyros way before I knew what PRA was.
Sure PRA has done some stuff with the FAA to improve training. but hey wake up people where flying Gyros before PRA. sure bensen formed the PRA. but we all know for a fact he did not invent the Gyroplane. bensen invented the Gyrocopters his trade name. and he started the PRA. but he in no way started Gyroplane flying it's self.
If the gyroplane had come along at a differant time in the world. I am sure there would be alot more of them flying, but the invention of the helicopter stole the gyroplanes thunder.
it is remarks like you just made about one of this sports most well known promoter of gyros, that really shows what a moron you are and personnaly shows me I need to save my money and not join PRA.
someone suggested a new orginaztion to promoto gyros. well ya know what? if they will get out there and really promote gyros instead of sitting back saying send us your money, you owe us for what we have done in the past. and for your money we will give you a crappy magizine and say you are welcoe to our airport that other members paid for but had no votes on. even thou you live thounds of miles away.. sorry but that don't cut it with me.
Sorry but i would rather invest that $50.00 in gyro parts. think about it when you are on a budget like alot of us are, $50.00 buys alot of bolts, or paint or other items we need. if we where all well off money wise. then I am sure most of us would be building helicopters or even fast fixed wings.
it's kind of like my feels of spending money on drinks for women at the bars. sure she may flirt with ya and talk a good game, but you can easyily go thru $20.00 to $50.00 in drinks and you still don't have much to show for it.
maybe I am just to tight with my money. but with todays economy you have to be. I would rather put the $20.00 in gas in my bike then waste on a bimbo at the bar. at least I enjoy the ride.
as for the airport ,that money should have been spent to promote the PRA improve the PRA and it's magizine and even used to maybe pay members expences to lobby the FAA and other governmant officals .
and I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way.
I hate to say it but that oh so great airport that most will never get to use will most likely be the real reason the PRA goes under. that just showed all the memebrship that the money was not being used for the good of all, but for the good of a few that wanted that airport.
you want new member get out and promate the sport go to events, and on't give us that we owe the PRA crap! to have some one sit there and say we owe a piss poor Org. that ruined it self becouse if wanted to be run by a select few that did not want to listen to whats it's members where saying thats just don't cut it.
trust me I may not post about it much, but I promote gyros every day. I invite people to come see my gyroproject, I have made and given away several DVDs of the ROC fly-in's and have told many about this forum.
I have had many many people call me looking for gyros and I take my time to find a good machine or tell then what to look for and where to get training.
and you know why I do it, becouse i enjoy it.
and ya know what I have never been a PRA national member. and with your attitude and blindness as a BOD member that would sit here and even have the nerve to say Ron has never done anything for PRA. well you just proved once again that I made the right choice to not join.
Stan at least looks like he is trying to change things and see the PRA for it good and bad and what needs to be changed. you on the other hand can't even see who really has promoted gyros.
I guess Dean you are still in the mind set that the PRA is not a sinking boat and it will stay a float on it's past efforts.
fact past efforts don't cut it. show the people you are listening and ready to make changes and get out of that old boys club ,we make the rules and do as we please and you can't stop us attitude and you very well get more members.
and thats all I am going to say about it.
Bottom line is to much money was wasted on an airport that does not serve all the members, and people have not forgotten that and never will. soon if thing don't change you very well may have an airport and nothing else.
I am sorry I have heard the arguement of PRA needed an airport for a home. but that don't fly with me PRA does not own an aircraft, any office space to rent or small building to by could have been a home for PRA. the money blown on that airport could have keep PRA in the green for many years. one fly in a year does not give a good enough reason to own an airport.
I don't see PRA owning the other airports that PRA fly-ins are put on at. but the local chapters keep right on haveing them.
PRA is not an airport is it is the people. but when a few people use the rest of the memberships money on what amounts to a bad decssion. then well they brought it on them selfs.
I say sell the airport, buy a nice none airport office and use the left over money to get the magizine back to a full color top notch magizine that advertiser will be happy to invest in. then you can reduce the membership dues some since you will have investiors and get out and promote the PRA and gyros. again PRA does not own an aircraft. so that being said it can be run from a normal less exspensive office. the money from the sale of the airport could very well get PRA back on it's feet.
and those are the fact as a total out siders sees it.
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