Yamaha Genesis engine on a Dominator.... here we go!

Hey Ron, a 'stock' superbike muffler shoudnt be too heavy, or hard to find. People go aftermarket and have them for sale. Some are even carbon fibre I think. Should be a suitable size too. I like em LOUD...
 
case of the WHA WAaaaas

case of the WHA WAaaaas

Someone refresh my memory.....why are the redrives never even number ratios ?

For a 3 cylinder...isn't a 3-1 ratio even ?

Chris,

Not good because the engine can harmonize with the prop and cause a resonance that will be very annoying to your hearing.

It happens when the exhaust pulse comes at the same time as a prop going by on the down stroke.

Plus you have teeth or drive line that always matches up on the same teeth. That is a bad issue because the teeth either gears or cog belt wear best when they are never on the same drive face in a row.

J
 
Jonathon- Excellent answer in the last post. Boiled down and precise! Stan
 
Stan, its exactly as Jonathon said.
There is also the fact that there is no such thing as a glass smooth engine (even a Mazda Rotary has firing pulses) also there is no such thing as a glass smooth pusher propeller. When the vibrations harmonize it can set up "good vibrations".
 
What about the second part of my question.......For a 3 cylinder, isnt a 3-1 an even ratio ?
 
3 to 1 is an even ratio for any engine, but your point could be valid - it could well be worse in a three cylinder engine. It has exactly 9 firing and induction pulses for every 2 propeller rpm's. Low rpm's would be the worst. I think the clutch was a good idea.
 
Bumping this thread to da top...

52 hours so far and she is still running great.
 
Ron, can you give us an update on the Yamaha? Whats your current total time? Any problems to report?

If you don't mind me asking, what did this end up costing you, engine and installation?
 
As of right now it is just a few tenths away from 60 hours total time.

I have not had issues other than the original problem with my fuel pumps not delivering enough fuel for extended wide open throttle settings. This was discovered in the first hour or so of flight testing and was fixed by adding a electric fuel pump in addition to the two vacum operated pulse pumps. If I did it over again, I would just use a pair of electric pumps and not even have the pulse pumps.

Elsewise it has been great trouble free flying.

Cost to put this engine on my gyro.... Well I honestly don't remember. I wheeled and dealed and got the gearbox for nothing. The engine and the mods that Racer did were specially priced as I was to be a test pilot for this package and I would be sure to give the engine plenty of exposure through attendance at the fly-ins etc....

I do not know what a person would spend on getting one of these engines on a gyro. I have spoke to Racer about it many times and it seems like if you had nothing and had to get a gearbox, prop, and all the other stuff, plus pay a average price for the donor sled, you could end up with 9-10 grand into it. Of course getting a good deal on a sled, gearbox, prop, etc.... all could knock the price down significantly. But overall this is not a junkard Subuaru engine swap, but who knows what it would really cost to buy a low milage Soob car to yank the engine, and then buy the redrive, prop and all the other stuff to make it airworthy, you might end up with quite a bit more in the soob than the Yamaha.

One thing I can say is the Yamaha seems to be quite good on gas, fuel burn can be as low as 2 gph at low throttle settings, and it has awesome power, and it runs extremely smooth. I am a very happy customer
 
Same muffler from the Yamaha install? Videos sound quit.
 
I still have the same muffler and it is still loud. I slowed the prop down with a new ratio in the gearbox, that is why it sounds better now, but it is still pretty loud.

I would not run 100LL in it alot, once in a while would be okay, but it is a close tolerance engine and I would be leary of the lead deposits on the valve train....
 
Just a bump to bring this out of the archives.......as another one comes to light.....Sure appreciate the detail here.
 
I believe the engine was tuned to run 87-93 octane pump gas, I would recommend staying away from 100LL, it is not an aircraft engine, it is a trail motor built to run on typical mogas.
 
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