Gary Goldsberry

[Rotornut]

Has sent me all the paper work on PRA INC and PRA MENTONE. Going to see our club accountant, and see what all it means.

For Those that said I would Never get it. BAAA. Now when I can understand it all I will tell you what I know.

I recieved all paper work and tax copies. I never felt that the Airport was not ours (PRA) but felt that I need to understand and to read it for myself.

So Gary I am Sorry if you felt I doubted you are anybody else on PRA INC BOARD or PRA MENTONE.

To those that have doubts hold your Tongues and Words. MJ

Thanks Sue

[GyroRon]

Please forward a copy to Maxie Wildes. I know he woud like to see them too! It isn't like he hasn't asked to see them.

[Harry_S.]

Let's just wait and see what the professional says!!

[Rotornut]

LOL now Harry you know I am no Professional! But I am going to have them looked at by a Accountant that used to practice in IN.

I have been reading and so far I see NOTHING wrong. Looks like we all might need to say Sorry Gary!

MJ

[jamiebodie]

Sorry, for not forwarding paperwork before several board members stepped down? Sorry for not being more forth right with the information that belongs to the membership in the first place? I am happy that the paperwork seems to exist and I hope it proves to be so, however it is Gary that owes all of us and apology for having to raise hell for over a year in order to get it.

It is all about checks and balances.

Jamie

[jamiebodie]

.....and one more thing, no one ever accused Gary of any wrong doing, we simply asked to see the paperwork.

jb

Time to go to ROC

[Rando]

Quote by Gary Goldsberry, "I announced at the PRA Convention Banquet that we have 2 years and 3 months left to pay on the PRA Airport."

I still feel that this was THE BEST decision the PRA made. It is a shame that a few good PRA members felt that it was a "shady deal".

Try to find an airport anywhere in the country for the price that the PRA purchased Mentone for. I know of 3 airports close to me (grass strips) that are for sale and I would have to win the lotto to be able to afford any one of them. It is unfortunate but they will probably be sold to a developer who will just build homes on them!

[jamiebodie]

No one said it was a shady deal, don't you read what we write, we just asked to see the paperwork. It took a year and a half to even get a hint that it was around. I have stated often and will state again now, however since people don't read well it won't matter, that I think that the purchase of the airport is a good idea. I think having the PRA HQ in Indiana is a good idea. Once again I think we should keep the airport and the HQ in IN.

I bet I have said this 20 times and people still don't get it. Heck, as a matter of fact I alluded to it in my last post.

So Randy to address your post, I don't care what Gary announced. Well over a year ago I asked to see the paperwork to show that all was in order between the PRA and PRA Mentone and I still haven't seen it. Three board members stepped down directly related to this issue and we still haven't seen it. These are not the actions that the president of the should take.

Jamie

BTW Randy, again you have missed the point, the point is not how much longer the PRA members have to pay for the airport. The point is that the paperwork is set up properly to ensure that ownership of the PRA airport rests on the PRA and it's members and not on PRA Mentone without PRA Mentone being under the direction of the PRA.

[Heron]

Hey Jamie! Feeling a little like me?
Knocking on the door knowing that people are inside and no response?
REmember how long ago we had the first exchange on the subjects I presented?
Four years . . .and nothing changed.
Half of what has been said on this matter is true, we are waiting to confirm the other half.
Where is M.J. with the papers? And why couldn't the members of BOD have it?
Heron

[Rotornut]

OK OK! I have read them and so has an accountant. ALL IS IN ORDER. PRA DOES OWN THE AIRPORT, ALONG WITH ALL MEMBERS. Now with that said We are still looking into some other papers also. BUT BOTTOM LINE AIRPORT DOES BELONG TO PRA AND MEMBERS.

I asked for these papers at BD Days 2004, after Maxie and Dan resigned. I spoke to Gary and he assured me he would send me a copy. I did in deed get the papers as I posted and have been looking thru them, and have taken them to a very reliable friend who is an accontant, who used to practice in IN, but now lives in Naples, FL.

These papers are up to date and accurate. As I learn more I will say more. Till then all I can assure you is WE OWN THE AIRPORT, that is ALL MEMBERS OF PRA OWN IT.

This makes me Happy! To see it is to Belive it! Jamie I hear YA. MJ

[Rando]

I hate to keep commenting on this and maybe I am all wet, BUT if I had been a board member I would never have asked Gary to see the paperwork! To me, it would be like my wife not trusting me and her asking me to see the bills each month and how much I pay. There is a certain level of trust that a person has to have and I bet Gary was very defensive because that is EXACTLY how I would have acted! Demanding to see something and then to quit when you don't get your way is not an adult behavior. Sorry but that is how I feel about it.

[C. Beaty]

Gary Goldsbury and Art Evans pledged personal assets to secure financing of the Mentone airport.

But no good deed goes unpunished.

This whole fracas over airport ownership was nothing more than a red herring.

Two disgruntled ex-board members pissed off at Gary for pulling the plug on their sweetheart deals and a third too dumb to understand what was actually happening.

[ToddP]

Originally Posted by N503R

if I had been a board member I would never have asked Gary to see the paperwork! To me, it would be like my wife not trusting me and her asking me to see the bills each month and how much I pay. There is a certain level of trust that a person has to have and I bet Gary was very defensive because that is EXACTLY how I would have acted!

I understand your point, however you've just described exactly how a good 'ol boys group functions, not a responsible non-profit corporation. It is the responsibility of the board of directors to protect the assets of the membership. This includes asking for documentation from the officers of the corporation. Now Gary may have taken offense to this but he shouldn't. The board is only acting on behalf of the membership.

Like most fireman, I work a second job on my day off. I am an officer of a non-profit corporation (Spokane Firefighters Credit Union). This past year we purchased a new building and sold the old one. If for any reason the board of directors wants to review the paperwork, it is available. I wouldn't think twice about giving it to them, they are doing their job of protecting the assets of the members.

This isn't any different than asking to see the paperwork relating to the airport.

[jamiebodie]

Chuck, you have truly lost your mind. You could not be more wrong. However, if you make us look bad it adds credibility to your stance so go ahead.

Jamie

Originally Posted by C. Beaty

Gary Goldsbury and Art Evans pledged personal assets to secure financing of the Mentone airport.

But no good deed goes unpunished.

This whole fracas over airport ownership was nothing more than a red herring.

Two disgruntled ex-board members pissed off at Gary for pulling the plug on their sweetheart deals and a third too dumb to understand what was actually happening.

[Heron]

Good going M.J.! Thanks!
Now . . .can we start mending fences and getting people back together and working for the good cause?
Heron