BEN S
Super Member
I am posting this in the "off topic section" for obvious reasons.
After the vitriol unleashed on/about/towards some of our members and the counter assault on the idea that some people are conspiracy theorists, there by making them less sane I thought I would just make a small post about some things that have happened in recent history, that while always inconclusive ,if studied would CERTAINLY show to a reasonably informed person that we are not being given the whole story.
OKC Bombing...as an explosives expert, there is just TOO many discrepancies in the official story to be even slightly believable.
read this...I have worked with some of these guys..
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/multibla.html
Waco TX Branch Davidian compound, Look into the gov'ts weak testimony about the IR flashes in rythmic time being "glint"...you don't have to look hard or be a gun guy to tell the difference between a machine gun firing on full auto and sun shining off reflective surfaces..
TWA flight 800...IF the UNABOMBER(remember him?) could shut down LAX for a day with just a phone call costing millions of dollars...what do you suppose would happen to the east coast economy if it were to be known publicly that Terrorists in a motorboat were capable and actively shooting planes down on take off with Stingers WE sold them just a few years before when we were supplying them against the Russians? Fuel tanks that are full of fuel don't have much air in them, certainly not enough O2 to sustain a spark and fire/detonation....how many pilots do you know would depart from NY to France with out filling the fuel tanks? I was on Active Duty as a Navy Diver at the time, My Dive Buddy(technical term) Jim M. was tasked to go and recover the plane and bodies...tough job, they were bending the divers on purpose to recover as fast as possible any evidence of foul play. Suffice to say Jim didn't have good things to say about the op and shortly thereafter crawled into a bottle,sad...told me once that a lot of the stuff they brought up got put on one barge for the NTSB, while some of the other stuff got put on a separate barge never to be seen of again. They admitted finding RDX on the wreckage, you don't just run into that...very expensive stuff.
Vice Foster
Ron Brown..(technical points on this to a buddy who is attached to an Air Force CC Team, apparently the "equipment" to make an airplane believe it is somewhere else does exist and has been used in the past) Granted, I personally haven't SEEN or USED this piece of gear, but after its extensive description I don't doubt it exists...)
Also if your not familiar look into PATCON
and Fast and Furious
The "Contrail that LOOKED like a missile launch, but was really just an airplane from Hawaii" Which incidentally makes the same flight ever day of the year, but NEVER once had people all over the west coast including the news media asking "what is it?""
Now I know you guys can add a ton more to these few, but just remember Occom's razor...the simplest explanation all else being equal is usually the right one.
We have all these events happen and the Gov't and Media work very hard to give people a "reasonable" explanation...and if that explanation just happens to make most of the people go "Whew, I'm glad it was something simple like that" instead of getting irate and taking to the streets then haven't they done they're job?
For those who would take this too far there is no ONE big gov't conspiracy, too many people in the Gov't just want to collect their pensions and retire without conflict, but on a smaller level there does seem to be some things afoot.
Or maybe I'm just insane...
Ben S (not my real name cause THEY are watching!)
:der:
After the vitriol unleashed on/about/towards some of our members and the counter assault on the idea that some people are conspiracy theorists, there by making them less sane I thought I would just make a small post about some things that have happened in recent history, that while always inconclusive ,if studied would CERTAINLY show to a reasonably informed person that we are not being given the whole story.
OKC Bombing...as an explosives expert, there is just TOO many discrepancies in the official story to be even slightly believable.
read this...I have worked with some of these guys..
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/multibla.html
Waco TX Branch Davidian compound, Look into the gov'ts weak testimony about the IR flashes in rythmic time being "glint"...you don't have to look hard or be a gun guy to tell the difference between a machine gun firing on full auto and sun shining off reflective surfaces..
TWA flight 800...IF the UNABOMBER(remember him?) could shut down LAX for a day with just a phone call costing millions of dollars...what do you suppose would happen to the east coast economy if it were to be known publicly that Terrorists in a motorboat were capable and actively shooting planes down on take off with Stingers WE sold them just a few years before when we were supplying them against the Russians? Fuel tanks that are full of fuel don't have much air in them, certainly not enough O2 to sustain a spark and fire/detonation....how many pilots do you know would depart from NY to France with out filling the fuel tanks? I was on Active Duty as a Navy Diver at the time, My Dive Buddy(technical term) Jim M. was tasked to go and recover the plane and bodies...tough job, they were bending the divers on purpose to recover as fast as possible any evidence of foul play. Suffice to say Jim didn't have good things to say about the op and shortly thereafter crawled into a bottle,sad...told me once that a lot of the stuff they brought up got put on one barge for the NTSB, while some of the other stuff got put on a separate barge never to be seen of again. They admitted finding RDX on the wreckage, you don't just run into that...very expensive stuff.
Vice Foster
Ron Brown..(technical points on this to a buddy who is attached to an Air Force CC Team, apparently the "equipment" to make an airplane believe it is somewhere else does exist and has been used in the past) Granted, I personally haven't SEEN or USED this piece of gear, but after its extensive description I don't doubt it exists...)
Also if your not familiar look into PATCON
and Fast and Furious
The "Contrail that LOOKED like a missile launch, but was really just an airplane from Hawaii" Which incidentally makes the same flight ever day of the year, but NEVER once had people all over the west coast including the news media asking "what is it?""
Now I know you guys can add a ton more to these few, but just remember Occom's razor...the simplest explanation all else being equal is usually the right one.
We have all these events happen and the Gov't and Media work very hard to give people a "reasonable" explanation...and if that explanation just happens to make most of the people go "Whew, I'm glad it was something simple like that" instead of getting irate and taking to the streets then haven't they done they're job?
For those who would take this too far there is no ONE big gov't conspiracy, too many people in the Gov't just want to collect their pensions and retire without conflict, but on a smaller level there does seem to be some things afoot.
Or maybe I'm just insane...
Ben S (not my real name cause THEY are watching!)
:der: