Very true Steve, but that does not mean an engine not designed for aviation is not a good choice.Steve_UK;n1122804 said:""The Yamaha engine has a good performance history on the off road four wheelers, and is waaaaaay cheaper than a Rotax.""
Yes a good design for bikes, cars and boats.
The Rotax is designed for aviation.
I am not a production gyro guy.Steve_UK;n1122808 said:Hi Jake
Thanks for your comments.
My reply was very short, you've certainly read a lot into it.
Rainman tells us "..............and is waaaaaay cheaper than a Rotax."
There is a reason why it may be cheaper, I suspect the cost of designing and seeking regulatory approval from aviation authorities across the globe for an aviation engine is a huge investment.
That's it - or buy a car/bike/boat engine
""You seem to downplay anything that has not been approved by the European government, indoctrination leads to stagnation."" - you might want to ask yourself why European designed and built gyros have sold so well in the USA over the past few years - Today Oshkosh is full of aircraft vendors using Rotax engines in their aircraft.
I looked at them in Mentone IN. The ONLY thing holding me back from purchasing a Tango2 right now is the lack of people to speak with about their experence with them. They seem to be quite a machine for the money and Paul and Alex answered questions from me for two days. They were friendly and easy to talk to. I also saw a really nice demo flight (thank you Kurt!). From meeting them I get the impression that they would offer good support for the product. I would just feel better speaking with some others that have a little time in the Tango2 and the impression that they have of the aircraft.NetPilot;n1123099 said:Hi Larry. Welcome to the Forum!
Sorry I am just seeing this... I have received dual instruction in a Tango and I can say it was very docile, manageable, and predictable on the ground and in the air. But it can be a nimble and exciting flyer as well ...as much as this type of gyro can be.
Fit and Finish is good, and structural integrity is extremely strong/solid. The 'look' of the welds, and other details, in the most recent models off the production line look great as well.
I need to 'archive' my PM box, but once I do, I will PM you with my contact info, and I can hook you up with several guys who have flown more extensively in the Tangos, aside from Scott above.
Did you manage to get insurance to do instruction.Seehowetofly;n1123214 said:Thanks for the replies everybody. The only thing holding me back right now is finding out if I can get insurance to teach in one. Falcon insurance is looking into it right now, but any other avenues anybody knows about would be appreciated. Thanks again
I see the Tangos fly every weekend along with hangar mate Kurt Carlsen in his single place Air Command with the YG4 carb version. Kurt is getting over 651 lbs of thrust and 150 HP and he climbs at well over 1200 fpm with 28' blades using a Tango gear box and donut. The YG3 has more torque, but, less HP and it requires a clutch. I am buying a Tango 2 next year and have not decided on which engine, but, they definitely out perform Rotax and are now getting to be as reliable after more than a year of R & D in our club here in Georgia.Dutch;n1125411 said:After spending about 4 hours in a friends 2 place gyro, I'm hooked!, I am currently a CFI for both Fixed-wing and Weight-shift and have been considering purchasing a new gyro to eventually offer instruction in, after many hrs of experience of course. The price tag on the 914 machines may be a bit over my budget and I am told that the 912 may not be adequate for all training situations.
I have a friend with a Yamaha powered trike, he has used both the carb & FI versions. The engines have performed very well, but he has had some issues with the redrives, both belt and gear. He says,"The engine is great, it's all about the gearbox", he does not think anyone has enough time on them to predict their reliability. I would like to know more regarding the reliability of the Yamaha in the Tango and would like to know how the performance compares to the 912/914 powered machines.