SportCopter II - UPDATE

scott heger

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How many SCII gyros do you think they will sell?

Will it stem the imports into the USA - you've bought over 60 Autogyro/Magni in the past few years.

Magni and Autogyro plus others too are selling in Europe, the USA, South Africa, Australia and around the world -do you think the SCII will sell around the world clocking up large numbers of sales?

Is the SCII the key model for the future of Sportcopter or do the new models that SC have hinted at hold the key for future sales.

At the moment the imports are taking the market.
What is the new retail price of a 914 in England? Below link is a list of Rotax aircraft engine pricing in the USA:

http://www.lockwood.aero/c-1-rotax-aircraft-engines.aspx

A 914 is $31,679 USD

Both ECI and Superior have a good reputation of producing excellent new experimental PMA engines. Not sure which engine supplier SportCopter is using(or others).

A IO 360/390 Experimental is about the same price and puts out around double the HP. A 914 weighs around 165 pounds , a Lycoming IO360 is in the 275 to 295 pound range. If cost are the same , adding 100 pounds of engine weight to gain nearly 100 HP will be quite a increase of power to weight ratio.

Scott Heger, Laguna Niguel,Ca N86SH
 
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Birdy, this is all being aired on the Rotax engine power thread
Your point?

Its all about horses for courses.
If you dont think you need the best power to weight machine, you dont need a 4banger rotax.
But if you think you do, and you think they are too expensive, then think again, your neck depends onit.
You only get wot you pay for.

Sure, there are cheaper ones, lighter ones and maybe even longer TBO ones, but theres nuthn else that has the P/W, economy, and reliability ofa 4banger rotax, that will easily excead its TBO, without a hitch.

Get use to it.
The idea was to move the Rotex power discussion (or lack of it) to its own thread instead of high-jacking this SportCopter thread. That was the point!
 

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None of the Rotax engines create enough extra power for the application they are generally being used for, IMHO,
I was only answering the quip you posted Stan, just arresting your highjack.
 

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How many SCII gyros do you think they will sell?

Will it stem the imports into the USA - you've bought over 60 Autogyro/Magni in the past few years...At the moment the imports are taking the market.
Steve, the SCII is aimed at the US public use market, primarily law enforcement, which does not need to make LSA (or European UL) weight limits. The MTO has gotten attention in this market, but if you put two big cops and all their gear in a Rotax-powered import, it's marginal on takeoff and climb. The SCII performs well with the same load and has room for sidearms, radios and other must-have gear for these guys.

So, the real question is, is this market big enough to support the sales of more than a few machines, and can it happen quickly enough to beat the coming wave of unmanned systems.

...I think for the size of the machine, Jim Vanek made the right choice.
No argument there, Scott.
 

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Current update!!!

Current update!!!

The SportCopter II has unbelievable performance and power. We do not condone any flying like this, but it shows the aerobatic maneuver capability that most other 2 place gyroplanes do not have the performance we do. Jim thought you guys might like to see this. :)
 

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Extra HP is a safety item in my way of thinking,there are those who fly underpowered

gyros and claim all that extra hp will kill you, when its really just the opposite, I have

never been behind the powercurve in my gyro.

Best regards,eddie.....
 

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Thank you!

Martin_av8r we can do custom paint on the SCII if a customer were to request it.
 
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