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Well I don't assault, and Obama did nothing in the international community. There were no peace summitts, no peace agreements, no attempt to end conflicts......nothing. Obama had been in office for 9 months when the award was announced. According to the Nobel Committee the award takes 4 to 6 months to consider and select. So that means Obama had to be nominated by January 31 2009, because nominations are not accepted after that for 2009. So now your are trying to say that in 11days that Obama strengthened international diplomacy? You really believe that statement? He could not do anything for diplomacy before the day he was sworn in, and in the next 11 days he got the White House in order, that is what all presidents HAVE to do. He also had nothing to do with the country's growth from slavery to modern day, if that is the case the award belongs to the people of this country, we as a whole grew and learned in order for him to become President. He did nothing to earn that award which tarnishes what it used to stand for, a person's accomplishments for peace.I was going to ignore skyguy's whataboutism Obama questions to avoid more childish responses, but it seems me ignoring him is too much for him to handle. So I've give a reasoned, accusation free response, but I don't expect a similar response in kind. The last few posts have been surprisingly civil, including an apology, so there's hope.
First off skyguy, please quote where I "called everyone a racist or a fool" or "accused or verbally assaulted someone else with lies and Party politics". I'll admit to "Always Trumper" not as an insult, no more than "Never Trumper", more as a short cut to the truth of fanatic "Trump is the Messiah" followers.
To answer your Obama ACA "keep your plan" question: I'm sure it was something he wanted to deliver but given the complexity of the US insurance landscape and constant efforts to scuttle instead of helping improve it by Republicans, it was a foolish thing to assert.
Why did Obama win the Nobel Peace prize? Well the official reason is "The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons." This is a reason Trump need not worry about meeting. He scuttles agreements the US is a part of, not create them. The Middle East Trump "Peace" Deal (funny it's a "Peace Deal" when there's already peace between the nations) is more a written acknowledgment of the status quo with some F35s thrown in. Any real Peace Deal must include the Palestinians. This deal is Israel and moderate muslin nations teaming up against Iran so they don't become the next Yemen. In the end not a bad thing if you're okay with the UAE getting F35s I suppose. No real change unless Shia lead countries join the pact.
Any how, I'm sure another reason Obama won the Peace Prize is an acknowledgement of how far the US has come given it's slavery past, which I'm sure gave impoverished people of color hope around the world.
I expect an explosive diarrhea of adolescent insults to follow. Prove me wrong, I triple dog dare you.
Trumps peace deals are really peace deals, true the countries were NOT in an active conflict of arms. However that does not mean peace existed between them. They did NO deals at all for political means, monetary means, or anything really. They have hated, and that is the correct term I have been in all three countries for extended times, they hated and probably still do hate Israel. I am impressed that he pulled it off in less than 2 months, hell that he pulled it off at all.
I also served in Serbia along with all my brothers in arms. Anyone that was there can tell you they would rather kill each other by hand to hand if they had no weapons than even let the other breath. So an economic peace agreement for normalization again is amazing.
All peace deals, ALL OF THEM the US brokers always involves weapons, money, defense systems......Obama tried to hide giving IRAN 150 BILLION dollars in CASH before he signed the peace deal with Iran, he paid a ransom for temporary peace which they violated the entire time.............so you say what about Trumps deals???? He did not give the worlds largest terrorists stronghold billions in cash............Obama did and that is a FACT.
My questions are not traps, but instances where one tries to get a Dem/Liberal to see both sides, because as a norm you won't. You can not have a discussion with a Dem, when you ask what Biden's Policies are, you get insulted, yelled at, called a racists or just totally ignored.
I can and mostly do respond civilly and clearly to questions on my positions. Insult me and then cry you are a victim....you get what you deserve. I don't spin, my questions are real, and I am really looking for answers. If you look back you will see I am not supporting any party I said clearly that I mostly vote for the lesser of all evils, I am a registered independent/libertarian. I believe in the constitution and the laws of this country. I gladly put my life on hold to serve my entire young adult life for this country and its people. Just to insure you will have the rights you so happily deserve and use.What I see from Biden, his past and the Dem's actions (proved by evidence) of them trying to unseat a duly elected president. Harrassing Trump before he took office to NOW.....no body deserves that. In my 20 years of service I glady without complaint followed all policies of the elected President even though I really did not like them at all. He was elected by the people so he was my president too.
Also as a soldier I learned, if you have to defend yourself, attack and push back as hard as you can. Be civil to me and I will be civil to you. When I counter your party rhetorc with facts, don't insult me, just post facts and we can talk about it.