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Fellas, you know the saying about never getting down in the mud to wrestle a pig?
(you just get muddy and the pig enjoys it). Similar refrain for arguing with an idiot.
Just hit the 'ignore' button (as I have) with these two idiots and let them wallow in their own ignorance.
We can continue the thread without them and you'll be far less frustrated.
Just a suggestion... ;)

I don't really care about polls and they don't serve any other purpose (in my opinion) than to push the poll-taker's political preference.
That said, I do find it interesting that the more honest (barely) polls indicate that President Trump is gaining support.
I'm a firm believer that there is a "silent majority" that will quietly do the right thing in a few months.
Probably many people have encountered idiots (such as we have here :p) and were similarly convinced that they don't want to be on THEIR side.

MAGA.

No piggy? :oops: "But muh PORK tendies!" 🤣
 
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Can you trust the polls this time?
No again this year.

When polled a great number of people are not going to admit they are voting for the Deamon the Dem's and liberal media's have created in their own mind.
Proof it is the same as last election -
My observation just today at the doctor's office was talking to a 25+-year-old female and a 40+-year-old male.
The conversation turned to politics and at the same time, the female was saying let's not go there.
I said reality As an independent the only candidate for the last 30 years to offer solutions to get the companies back from China was Trump. Name one solution that Biden will create jobs/wealth for the middle-class.
The male said that is why I voted for him and the female actually said. "Oh thank God, I'm voting for him this time too, my business was way up."

Here is the telling part = she continues later "I'm afraid to say when asked because even my friends call me all kinds of names they hate him and me if
I'm voting for him. I just try and say let's not go there, but if pressed I lie to my friends until they say they are voting for Trump"

For whatever reason, the majority of humans actually care what other people think of them. I don't care unless I'm paying for your opinion and then I care how much I paid.
 
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Can you trust the polls this time?
No again this year.

When polled a great number of people are not going to admit they are voting for the Deamon the Dem's and liberal media's have created in their own mind.
Proof it is the same as last election -
My observation just today at the doctor's office was talking to a 25+-year-old female and a 40+-year-old male.
The conversation turned to politics and at the same time, the female was saying let's not go there.
I said reality As an independent the only candidate for the last 30 years to offer solutions to get the companies back from China was Trump. Name one solution that Biden will create jobs/wealth for the middle-class.
The male said that is why I voted for him and the female actually said. "Oh thank God, I'm voting for him this time too, my business was way up."

Here is the telling part = she continues later "I'm afraid to say when asked because even my friends call me all kinds of names they hate him and me if
I'm voting for him. I just try and say let's not go there, but if pressed I lie to my friends until they say they are voting for Trump"

For whatever reason, the majority of humans actually care what other people think of them. I don't care unless I'm praying for your opinion and then I care how much I paid.
Trump rallies (tens of thousands) VS Biden gatherings (dirty dozen) - proof in the pudding

the intimidation from the radical left is deadly
 

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Quote: Only better solutions can change the middle vote /Quote

Example of a better solution is Obama's and Biden's handling of H1N1, a pandemic similar to COVID.

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Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009.
That was when only 20 cases of H1N1 — and no deaths — around the country had been confirmed.
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https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ent-obama-declared-h1n1-public-health-emerge/

H1N1 ultimately claimed 12469 lives, compare this to 193000(!!) COVID deaths as of today, that's more than 15 (!) times the H1N1 toll and the worst in COVID is yet to come. You'll be way beyond 200000 deaths by Nov. 3rd!

Of course this is the Donald's fault, he told people "Oh, this will go away". Even on July 20th the Covidiot in Chief said "It will disappear"
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/07/...-ultimately-right-covid-19-to-go-us-news.html

Between July 20th and today more than 50000 Americans have died. This disaster happened although the Donald knew by February that COVID was very dangerous, which is proved by the audio footage that Bob Woodward recorded and published in his book.

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“This is deadly stuff,” President Trump said of the coronavirus in a Feb. 7 interview with the journalist Bob Woodward for his upcoming book, “Rage.” But it was a vastly different story than he was telling the public at the time.
/Quote
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/us/politics/woodward-trump-rage-takeaways.html
 

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How can you not see you are still voting for a PARTY. Nothing to vote for here for either party = our party would have done it better!!!
There is no Biden solution for COVID in your entire post.
If Trump told you Dem's to wear a mask you would accuse him of lying and many would not ware it. Same with the Rep's few listened to the man they hated Obama's advice. What happened to your logic... this is silly.
 

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Don't feel bad. No one can list even one better solution for the Dem's for the last election either. We Dem's will do a better job without one sentence as to the actual plan to make any of it happen.

Biden pandering = I will provide the same health care as my family. Not unless you tell us how you can pay for it without costing JOBS you aren't!! He's lying.

It's not the fault of the middle the Dem's have no new solutions that ANYONE can list including you or me.
 

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Quote: Only better solutions can change the middle vote /Quote

Example of a better solution is Obama's and Biden's handling of H1N1, a pandemic similar to COVID.

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Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009.
That was when only 20 cases of H1N1 — and no deaths — around the country had been confirmed.
/Quote NO CLOSE DOWN EITHER... ---------->TRUMP STOPPED TRAVEL FROM CHINA BEFORE ANY DEATHS<------
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...ent-obama-declared-h1n1-public-health-emerge/

H1N1 ultimately claimed 12469 lives, compare this to 193000(!!) COVID deaths as of today, that's more than 15 (!) times the H1N1 toll and the worst in COVID is yet to come. You'll be way beyond 200000 deaths by Nov. 3rd! , BULLETS DON'T COUNT 9,210 CDC ATLANTA

Of course this is the Donald's fault, he told people "Oh, this will go away". Even on July 20th the Covidiot in Chief said "It will disappear"
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/07/...-ultimately-right-covid-19-to-go-us-news.html EXPIRATION DATE NOV 2020

Between July 20th and today more than 50000 Americans have died. This disaster happened although the Donald knew by February that COVID was very dangerous, which is proved by the audio footage that Bob Woodward recorded and published in his book.

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“This is deadly stuff,” President Trump said of the coronavirus in a Feb. 7 interview with the journalist Bob Woodward for his upcoming book, “Rage.” But it was a vastly different story than he was telling the public at the time. FLU IS DEADLY TOO KILLS MORE
/Quote
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/09/us/politics/woodward-trump-rage-takeaways.html
EVEN IF THE BEE CAN EXPLANE TO THE FLY WHY POLLIN IS BETTER THEN SHIT
THE FLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND,

Joe Biden did jack shit in office But he did Quid Pro Quo in Ukraine. Getting Hunter 1.5 billion $$$ to play with......from China. What else? Sniff.
Bob Woodward? really?
CDC Atlanta had 9,210 Rona only deaths out side of nursing homes.

GET A BIGGER BALL GAG (NO JOKE) That mask make you sound like Charley Browns teacher.

Your trolling is 3 on the scale of ten.

Move into gay porn you might get a speaking part with all the stuff you pull out of your ass.

New York Times? try again

Rona has an expiration date...Right after that election your side lost. Just like 2016 you'll howl at the sun or moon

SS uniforms and rubber underwear is in your future - get used to it

BLM Antifa (Brown Shirts reboot) ain't going to work here too many armed patriots. We know the play book.

Those in this treasonous coup are toast. From the ground troops of the BLM to ole George. Enjoy the shit show.

Where's Hunter?

2Q2Q the ride never ends

It will for the DNC & Rino traitors
 
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Quote: There is no Biden solution for COVID in your entire post. /Quote
Of course there is. As my post clearly states: Biden and Obama took early action making sure the pandemic does not get out of hand, as it now is in the US. They lost less than 7% of the number Americans the Covidiot in Chief has killed so far. And the reason? Well, not a single European leader ever told their country "This will go away", they took action to the best of their knowledge. The Donald knew (!!) this is serious as of Feb. 7th yet didn't take sufficient action but told people "This will go away"! Due to the Covidiot in Chief, America. the world's super power, now per day per capita counts 15(!) times the number of COVID deaths as in the EU and 62 (yep, that's sixty two !!!!!!) times the number of COVID deaths per day per million than in Germany. By Nov. 3rd the Covidiot in Chief, in less than a year, will have killed three times the number of Americans who lost their lives in the entire Vietnam war.
 

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Quote: There is no Biden solution for COVID in your entire post. /Quote
Of course there is. Biden and Obama took early action making sure the pandemic does not get out of hand, as it now is in the US. Not a single European leader ever told their country "This will go away", they took action to the best of their knowledge. The Donald knew (!!) this is serious as of Feb. 7th yet didn't take sufficent action but told people "This will go away"! Due to the Covidiot in Chief, the world's super power America now per day per capita counts 15(!) times the number of COVID deaths in the EU and 62 (yep, that's sixty two !!!!!!) times the number of COVID deaths per day per million than in Germany. By Nov. 3rd the Covidiot in Chief, in less than a year, will have killed three times the number of Americans who lost their lives in the entire Vietnam war.
61,000 people can die each year during a severe flu season. Why didn't we blame Obama and all past presidents for not responding at all???
The middle knows from experience that no administration in our history knows how to handle a new disease. That required scientific research as to how it is spread, who is at risk
As soon as they create a vaccine it will pass like Smallpox, Polio, and all the others Biden/Trump/Obama/George Washington were just as helpless waiting on science.
Unless they send in troops and force Americans to not gather, wear a mask, and wash their hands.

There is nothing for the middle to vote for here. = ZERO solutions, We've seen this same blame game/show with SARS and many other new diseases!.
Only the liberal media and hardcore Dems CARE solely because a Rep is in power.

If it were a Dem it would have been the best handling in the world with the same stats and the Rep's would all be telling you how terrible it was and how they could have Monday morning quarterbacked it but only AFTER we all learned the Scientific score.
 
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Quote: There is no Biden solution for COVID in your entire post. /Quote
Of course there is. As my post clearly states: Biden and Obama took early action making sure the pandemic does not get out of hand, as it now is in the US. Not a single European leader ever told their country "This will go away", they took action to the best of their knowledge. The Donald knew (!!) this is serious as of Feb. 7th yet didn't take sufficent action but told people "This will go away"! Due to the Covidiot in Chief, America. the world's super power, now per day per capita counts 15(!) times the number of COVID deaths as in the EU and 62 (yep, that's sixty two !!!!!!) times the number of COVID deaths per day per million than in Germany. By Nov. 3rd the Covidiot in Chief, in less than a year, will have killed three times the number of Americans who lost their lives in the entire Vietnam war.🤣 We lose more to medical malpractice you doof:sneaky:
Mrs. Lotion? 2019? Just like the Ebola 'out break' or the N1H1 out break - Obama & Biden did absolutely nothing. Just Like Benghazi.:sleep:

Actually they blamed a video for Benghazi.... Just like you pathetic. 🥴

Get a wiffel ball gag (no joke) your O2 is cut off. Trump Derangement Syndrome has no cure.
Germany: NGO brings illegal Muslim migrants to Europe, with help from the Catholic Church

Your Somalia groomers are here and ready to fix your Trump issues,:love: How's your NO GO ZONE? Comfy ? 🤗

Rona will go away right after the election. And then take off your mask and take a deep breath and howl at the sky. Loser.
 
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What happened to your excellent logic. This is more like a religious belief in a party = vote for a Dem with no/bad solutions for job creation or anything else but how he might handle the next new disease. Foolish they don't happen that often.
 

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EVERYONE IN EPSTINES PEDO ISLAND LOG BOOK ARE BACKING DEMOCRATS - :oops:
TRUMP HAS MANY OPERATIONS ON GOING AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING.:cool:
TRUMP STOPPED THE IRAN DEAL.☠
TRUMP STOPPED THE PARIS ACCORD:cry:
TRUMP HAS NATO PAYING IS OWN SHARE.:sleep:
TRUMP IS PROSECUTING A WAR AGAINST CORRUPTION.:p

DOES JERGEN HAVE TIES TO THIS DISGUSTING BUNCH? 🥴

WHAT TYPE OF ENGINEER IS MRS. LOTION?:unsure:

EVEN IF THE BEE EXPLANES TO THE FLY WHY POLLIN IS BETTER THEN SHIT THE FLY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

JERGEN'S A FLY?💩
 

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Kolibri...You compared covid deaths blamed on Trump in one year as 3 times the number killed in Vietnam.
Let just say your figures are correct...and its all Trumps fault. Trump is also trying to save much more lives than 3 times the Vietnam casualties..

how about trying to save over 15 times the Vietnam war total?.....that the liberals are all onboard to kill???

We shamefully abort over 800,000 babies per year in this country.....by CHOICE...and not sickness from a virus.....but a knife and suction tube.

But no....this is ok by you liberals.
 

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Quote: This is more like a religious belief in a party /Quote
No, John, it has nothing to do with a party, it has only to do with the Donald's personality. I personally loathe liars who tell people "Oh, this will go away" although they know that it definitely won't. Additionally by making the simple practical issue of wearing a mask a political issue the Donald has severely aggravated an already bad situation and is to no small part personally responsible for the horrendous US death toll. But perhaps even more important: in 2015 Merkel has flooded Germany with over a million men, mostly from North Africa and in these countries for the vast majority of men women are just $h!t, but a man who brags about grabbing women by the pu$$y is just as despicable. Everybody who has at least a tiny bit of love and respect for his mother must feel the same.


Quote: We shamefully abort over 800,000 babies per year in this country /Quote
I think we have had that point before, Stan. First, you don't kill babies, that would be illegal in the US as it is anywhere else in the world, you remove a couple hundred/thousand cells. This is not to say that this is an easy decision and for every women who faces that situation it is probably the worst nightmare imaginable but it must be up to the woman do decide. This is the result of a consideration of legal interests and in basically all democratic countries that issue was decided in favour of the personal rights of women, which, in a democracy, is the only possible solution.
But the number of abortions in the US is high and it is the society that has to ensure that women have every support they need to decide in favour of having a child. In reality though your social security system is as lousy as in any third world country and I think before that hasn't changed and the US system is up to European standards nobody can rightly deplore the US abortion figures.

Total number of COVID deaths in the US now 193693! Since the death rate is still more than 700 per day 200000 US deaths will be reached in less than ten days.
 
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Quote: This is more like a religious belief in a party /Quote
No, John, it has nothing to do with a party, it has only to do with the Donald's personality. I personally loathe liars who tell people "Oh, this will go away" although they know that it definitely won't. Additionally by making the simple practical issue of wearing a mask a political issue the Donald has severely aggravated an already bad situation and is to no small part personally responsible for the horrendous US death toll. But perhaps even more important: in 2015 Merkel has flooded Germany with over a million men, mostly from North Africa and in these countries for the vast majority of men women are just $h!t, but a man who brags about grabbing women by the pu$$y is just as despicable. Everybody who has at least a tiny bit of love and respect for his mother must feel the same.
The Dem's become so moral when it's a Rep.

How do you explain all the Dem's voting for the pussy, grabbing, woman molester, Bill Clinton accused by over 10 DEMOCRAT women of molesting them? You all ignore your hate when it's a Dem. Hypocrites, it's trying to get people to vote for hate of a person while ignoring the best solutions offered by flawed human being!! But, like a religion only when they are in the other party!!!

Let only the Dem's who are without sin hate both Bill and Donald equally.
The rest of us imperfect people should only vote for the best solutions to create full employment which will guarantee every sector will get a long-overdue raise and jobs for all.

If you cared about the middle-class not being left behind, as you CLAIM the Dem's party does. You all would be voting for Trump's SOLUTIONS that are ALL WORKING!!!

Yes, the Dem's voted for the pussy-grabbing Bill Clinton and still love him today but this election you are voting for the same blind hate the so moral Rep's had of Clinton's personal behavior and like a religion you both vote for a party and not the best solutions for our nation.
Only we independents vote for the best solutions from two flawed parties and flawed human beings.
 
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