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As long as I'm trolling ( I'm 1/2 Norwegian-1/2 Swedish ), I probably have some troll in my blood, you guys stay agitated!
 

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I guess for me, whom has never subscribed to a political party for lack of fully understanding the differences, my voting options boil down to a simple binary decision. To simplify things, lets assume for the moment that neither party has a solution for anything. Taking that off the table we can compare apples to apples with regard to character, honesty, decency, etc. I won't re-express opinion that I have already shared in a previous post. I see the minutia of the platforms each candidate is running on as a secondary concern to the more urgent issues. So the choice, regardless of party, gets simplified to which is the more rational of the two. Regardless of how I feel about it, actions, history and evidence paint detailed pictures of each.
 

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Left-wing politics, right-wing politics, as Kipling said, "never the twain shall meet."
Thank God for independents who only vote for the candidates with the best solutions, and not blindly for either party!!!
It's sad that only Trump has had new solutions to offer voters.
 

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As long as I'm trolling ( I'm 1/2 Norwegian-1/2 Swedish ), I probably have some troll in my blood, you guys stay agitated!
Through the weeds came the Sweeds the battle of Copenhagen Through the weeds ran the Sweeds Chased by one sick Norwegian.

So chasing your own tail? 🤣
 

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No, you got that wrong, One Norsky, my dad, chased One Sweed, my mom through the weeds, and here I am to your chagrin.
 

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No, you got that wrong, One Norsky, my dad, chased One Sweed, my mom through the weeds, and here I am to your chagrin.
Sad we might be related - Granddaddy was a Norwegian :oops: Grandma Welsh/ Scotts🤗 (Royalty)

You can be my granddaddys brothers cousins roommate in college 🥴 There goes the neighborhood;)

Sure he didn't peg a goat?🤣
 

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Quote: What is Biden's solutions that independents without blind hate of either party should vote for in your opinion? /Quote #1230
If you have just two candidates, John, one of which has proved his incompetence beyond any doubt the choice is simple.

Quote:
The comparison of the U.S. case-fatality rate to that of Germany helps explain how irrelevant the statistic is, since there is no doubt which country is handling the pandemic better. While the U.S. has a case-fatality rate of 3.8 percent, compared to Germany’s 4.5 percent, America’s mortality rate of 428 deaths per million citizens is nearly four times higher than Germany’s of 110 per million.

As the U.S. exceeded 140,000 dead on Sunday, Germany, which has about one quarter the population of the U.S. has suffered 9,091 deaths. What this means is that more than 100,000 Americans who have died of Covid-19 this year would still be alive today had the federal government in Washington had been as successful as the one in Berlin.
/Quote
from here:
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/19/trump-holds-chart-fox-news-shows-hes-lying-lies-says/

That is even more true today than it was back then. As of today number of total deaths:
Germany 9331, US 189208 (!!!!)
Between the above article and today 49000 Americans have died versus 240 Germans. It's now 140000 Americans who could have been saved, had the Donald taken the right actions instead of reiterating "Oh, this will go away."

The death rate (deaths per day per capita) by the way, today in the US is 50 (!) times that of Germany.

The number of US deaths will unfortunately be above 190000 before the end of the week.
 

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I wish all the liberals could see and hear that video.....but few will understand.

Unless you have live a life of getting only what you have worked for ..will you understand why we hate to see the best success story on this planet ....trying to be destroyed from within by "Privileged " people......and that includes all races...
 

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Quote: What is Biden's solutions that independents without blind hate of either party should vote for in your opinion? /Quote #1230
If you have just two candidates, John, one of which has proved his incompetence beyond any doubt the choice is simple.

Quote:
The comparison of the U.S. case-fatality rate to that of Germany helps explain how irrelevant the statistic is, since there is no doubt which country is handling the pandemic better. While the U.S. has a case-fatality rate of 3.8 percent, compared to Germany’s 4.5 percent, America’s mortality rate of 428 deaths per million citizens is nearly four times higher than Germany’s of 110 per million.

As the U.S. exceeded 140,000 dead on Sunday, Germany, which has about one quarter the population of the U.S. has suffered 9,091 deaths. What this means is that more than 100,000 Americans who have died of Covid-19 this year would still be alive today had the federal government in Washington had been as successful as the one in Berlin.
/Quote
from here:
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/19/trump-holds-chart-fox-news-shows-hes-lying-lies-says/

That is even more true today than it was back then. As of today number of total deaths:
Germany 9331, US 189208 (!!!!)
Between the above article and today 49000 Americans have died versus 240 Germans. It's now 140000 Americans who could have been saved, had the Donald taken the right actions instead of reiterating "Oh, this will go away."

The death rate (deaths per day per capita) by the way, today in the US is 50 (!) times that of Germany.

The number of US deaths will unfortunately be above 190000 before the end of the week.
Jergen? Take the ball gag out. (No joke)

Trump in office 4 years = Booming economy, Higher wages, resupplied military, New trade deals. America 1st. NATO pays its fair share.
FBI DOJ cleaned out State Department being cleansed 82 Government officers (Congress, mayors etc.) arrested for child sex crimes.
170,000+ sealed indictments 400,000+ indictments in process, 15,000 + human trafficking arrests prosecuted- Epstine didn't kill himself.
CDC Atlanta 9,000+ Rona deaths outside of the nursing homes - Newsome, Wolf, Murphy, Cuomo Whitmer under investigation for murder.

Biden 45 years ? Ukraine corruption, seal team 6, Benghazi, Iran deal, Paris accord all laundry money schemes and corruption.
With all those years you'd think Uncle Joe would of fixed something. other then sniffing & groping little girls
Mr Lotion your fixation on Rona isn't healthy or you're a paid shill.

🎶 Spring time for Bunghole in Germany -Our land a Homeland once more!🎵
We have Rona in our face, We can take it, We're thee Master Race!
Spring time with Lotion in Germany - Our news is your news once more!
My uniform & underwear is really neat, That ball gag I wear is really sweet!🎶

Don't be stupid be a smarty! Join me and the Rona Party!

November 4 2020 the mandate for Rona expires, The real bug is dead but the liberal disease still lingers.

It's not about a stupid virus where you have a 99.998% of living through. It's about revolution and a rigged election in 2016 THEY LOST.

IF THAT SON OF A BITCH GETS IN WE'RE ALL GOING TO HANG FROM NOOSES.

IT'S CORRUPTION & HUMAN TRAFFICKING THAT THE RONOs AND DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES (SEE JOE)

Jergen? You're a sick puppy. Seek mental help or a better porn fluffer
 
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Quote: What is Biden's solutions that independents without blind hate of either party should vote for in your opinion? /Quote #1230
If you have just two candidates, John, one of which has proved his incompetence beyond any doubt the choice is simple.

Quote:
The comparison of the U.S. case-fatality rate to that of Germany helps explain how irrelevant the statistic is, since there is no doubt which country is handling the pandemic better. While the U.S. has a case-fatality rate of 3.8 percent, compared to Germany’s 4.5 percent, America’s mortality rate of 428 deaths per million citizens is nearly four times higher than Germany’s of 110 per million.

As the U.S. exceeded 140,000 dead on Sunday, Germany, which has about one quarter the population of the U.S. has suffered 9,091 deaths. What this means is that more than 100,000 Americans who have died of Covid-19 this year would still be alive today had the federal government in Washington had been as successful as the one in Berlin.
/Quote
from here:
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/19/trump-holds-chart-fox-news-shows-hes-lying-lies-says/

That is even more true today than it was back then. As of today number of total deaths:
Germany 9331, US 189208 (!!!!)
Between the above article and today 49000 Americans have died versus 240 Germans. It's now 140000 Americans who could have been saved, had the Donald taken the right actions instead of reiterating "Oh, this will go away."

The death rate (deaths per day per capita) by the way, today in the US is 50 (!) times that of Germany.

The number of US deaths will unfortunately be above 190000 before the end of the week.
I'm a solution-oriented person. Cannot help it's the way I see life and how I made PRA profitable and was able to retire at 39.

What solutions has Biden offered in 40 years that made black independent and better off than they were or increased their wealth or the middle-class wealth??? He's left them behind for 40 years.
His solutions have not made Black's independent with good-paying jobs.

Trump's solutions have!!!

Biden's socialistic policies are directly responsible for keeping the blacks retired in the welfare poverty with the same social-economic status as when the Dem's paid food and board and owned them as slaves!!! I see no improvement in family structure because there is no economic independence with Biden's socialist handouts only room and board the same as when slaves. Only a new business or job can create independence.
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Until there is a vaccine people will die no matter what a president does the same as with SAR's, polio, Diptheria, Smallpoks on and on.

What past president was held responsible for all of those diseases because many Americans did not take personal responsibility to wear a mask, separate, and wash their hands???

How as the liberal media convinced you that any president can control Americans' personal choice to get vaccinated or wear a mask.
Why is this the first President to ever be expected to have this power or ability?

Does that mean that from now on presidents are responsible for each new flu season's deaths which can be as high as 60K a year? We could get them to zero if you shut down the economy and hold the president from now on to this new standard.

Corvid to independents is a non/pretend liberal MEDIA created issue. It requires a vaccine from companies, not any past or present president.

As if a Dem could have done better. None of them offered advice on what to do. Only what he should have done after the game just like Monday morning quarterbacks!!! But it required new researched information to be known to be able to offer that advice.
 
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Quote: any president can control Americans' personal choice to get vaccinated or wear a mask /Quote
The point is, John, that Trump has completely underestimated the problem (Oh, this will go away...) and ridiculed those wearing masks instead of leading by example.

Quote: The Republican president, who downplayed the virus in its early stages and once referred to mask-wearing as politically correct, has been reluctant to wear a face covering himself. /Quote
from here:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ing-warns-of-worsening-pandemic-idUSKCN24M2X3

Quote: As of early May 2020, 88% of the world's population lived in countries that recommend or mandated the use of masks in public; /Quote
Trump heralded mask wearing on July 21, almost three month after everyone else did and no other leader of any G7 country muttered ridiculous incantations like "Oh, this will go away.." that is his personal responsibility in the disaster which is US Covid handling. It has cost the lives of 200.000 Americans by the end of the week,( if not by tomorrow? )

He is leading a country which has been deemed one of the best prepared in the world for a pandemic.
Quote: "Johns Hopkins, highly respected, … they did a study, comprehensive, the countries best and worst prepared for an epidemic," Trump said in the White House briefing room. "And the United States, we're rated No. 1." /Quote
from here:
https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/02/27/trum...-coronaviruscovid-19-649-em0-art1-dtd-health/

Only a super, hyper, giga Covidiot in Chief like The Donald could make such an utterly incredible mess of it.
 

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OK, only the liberal Media and Dem's care. They are already voting for Biden.
How about posting Biden's solution for anything that would gain you even one new vote?
Like all past diseases until there is a cure people will die. Those that have died should have worn a mask, washed their hands, or not gone out at all just like all other diseases in man-kinds history.
 

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Before we start to discuss any future solutions, John, how do you explain that the US
Quote: "Johns Hopkins, highly respected, … they did a study, comprehensive, the countries best and worst prepared for an epidemic," Trump said in the White House briefing room.

"And the United States, we're rated No. 1." /Quote

now is the only G7 country with a death toll only equal to other "rat hole countries" as the Donald has called them?
 

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Before we start to discuss any future solutions, John, how do you explain that the US
Quote: "Johns Hopkins, highly respected, … they did a study, comprehensive, the countries best and worst prepared for an epidemic," Trump said in the White House briefing room.

"And the United States, we're rated No. 1." /Quote

now is the only G7 country with a death toll only equal to other "rat hole countries" as the Donald has called them?
My personal observations driving from IN to CA for 32 hours at the beginning of September 2020.

All the states but Denver and CA where they yelled at you have to have a mask. Most of the people/locals at the gas stations and restaurants were not wearing masks. Inside the workers were mostly wearing masks but 10% of them weren't either.

It individual human behavior that spread diseases and no president in our history could control that unless they send in troops and no law or president will or has been able to control Americans free choice!

OK, your turn gives us Biden's solutions.
 

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Here is the difference between you and independents. Consider the reality = If Obama or Biden did exactly the same as Trump for Corvid. You, independent's, and the liberal media would not be blaming them EITHER but all the Rep's here would be desperately trying to make it an issue without any better solution from a Rep candidate!!!

That seems so immature an understanding of a president's power unless they sent in troops, then there would be other complaints.
 

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Quote: OK your turn give us Biden's solutions. /Quote

Not quite yet, John, Trump has made some bold claims:
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In a news conference Wednesday night about the global coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump cited a Johns Hopkins study that determined that
the U.S. is more prepared to deal with a pandemic than any other country in the world.(!!)
/Quote

Trump bragged about how well the US is prepared for the virus, how come your number of deaths is increasing in a way only rat hole countries do?
 

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Quote: OK your turn give us Biden's solutions. /Quote

Not quite yet, John, Trump has made some bold claims:
Quote:
In a news conference Wednesday night about the global coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump cited a Johns Hopkins study that determined that
the U.S. is more prepared to deal with a pandemic than any other country in the world.(!!)
/Quote

Trump bragged about how well the US is prepared for the virus, how come your number of deaths is increasing in a way only rat hole countries do?
He spent the most money. This will not change one vote. How is this not common sense to you.

Only better solutions can change the middle vote!! You have tried to make the middle blindly hate him for 4 years with more than 9 impeachment attempts and none of it has worked because it SOLUTIONS the middle votes for. Not your BLIND HATE and acceptance of every lie the liberal media tells you. If it not a solution we can fact check who cares and who knows what to believe about non-solutions like your complaint, certainly not the media.
 
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Quote: OK your turn give us Biden's solutions. /Quote

Not quite yet, John, Trump has made some bold claims:
Quote:
In a news conference Wednesday night about the global coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump cited a Johns Hopkins study that determined that
the U.S. is more prepared to deal with a pandemic than any other country in the world.(!!) two hospital ships and multiple field hospitals - closed travel to infected countries, HCQ works 70 million tests! TRUMP WAS RIGHT!
/Quote

Trump bragged about how well the US is prepared for the virus, how come your number of deaths is increasing in a way only rat hole countries do?:p it's not you're numbers are a fraud. Haven't you researched it ? Just parrot the Bull Shit like CNN?
Mrs. Lotion Guess you have severe brain damage. and have major communication issues. STOP
1. The virus peeked 3 months ago. STOP🥴
2. HCQ cocktail used in other countries works with great effectiveness against multiple types of covis/sar/flu viruses. STOP🤗
3. Studies from the same universities and hospitals you list show masks do nothing to curb any viruses. STOP
4. Joe Biden has no chance in this election ZERO:oops:
5 Trump will continue being President, the 14th Amendment will be used for the sedition of Democrat held states (Vote nullification)😫STOP
6. CDC Atlanta tabulate virus deaths outside of nursing homes 9210. :sneaky: STOP
7. Ball gags are no substitute for masks that also do nothing for virus spread (Army NBC training folks) They don't issue face tampons! 🤣STOP
7.5 WHO tabulation includes flu, heart attacks, auto accidents, comorbidities, gun shot deaths, dildo attacks, blunt force trauma, dog bites & warts to their count of Rona deaths. research this:cool: STOP
8. You don't get a refund on your "My Little Adolf Bunghole" full body pillow no mater how lonely you get at nappy time.:sleep:STOP
9. Your obsession with Rona deaths is your kink. Sad to miss out on the rest that kill more. Pathetic really. Fear porn from Germany.🥴STOP
10. If your obsession lasts more then 4 hours please consult a doctor. ☠STOP


Jergen? You are played the fool. You've got to be a paid shill, No one is stupid like CNN, MSNBC, RUTERS, BBC. (Propaganda)
The people the world over see the Bull Shit.
Even Q Anon has more facts pulled from open source documents -DOD, FBI, DOJ, Local feeds, Citizen News reporters covering events,
You keep pushing bull shit and showing your unfounded TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME - with zero ideas on how this government is structured and lawfully ran.

"BUT MY RONA!"
"BUT MY NEWS MEDIA CNN, BBC, NBC, CBS, NEWYORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST! Here's a hint , Pull that ball gag (No Joke) out of your pie hole and surf the channels at your news time. Notice they all have the same script? 24/7/365? Same Orange Man Bad... Same do it for the community, same lock downs that do absolutely nothing. Now put your ball gag back in your pie hole.

TRUMP = Q+

TRUMP PRESIDENT UNTIL 2028 (and that's not a typo bitch)
 
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Fellas, you know the saying about never getting down in the mud to wrestle a pig?
(you just get muddy and the pig enjoys it). Similar refrain for arguing with an idiot.
Just hit the 'ignore' button (as I have) with these two idiots and let them wallow in their own ignorance.
We can continue the thread without them and you'll be far less frustrated.
Just a suggestion... ;)

I don't really care about polls and they don't serve any other purpose (in my opinion) than to push the poll-taker's political preference.
That said, I do find it interesting that the more honest (barely) polls indicate that President Trump is gaining support.
I'm a firm believer that there is a "silent majority" that will quietly do the right thing in a few months.
Probably many people have encountered idiots (such as we have here :p) and were similarly convinced that they don't want to be on THEIR side.

MAGA.
 
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