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Yes Lotion. Some scars don't show. Like the major mind fuck I put your family through.
 

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60% of California"s forests are managed by the federal gov. Let's blame 60% of the fires on trump!
But the fires started in the state parks.
I know I was living in the middle of all the fires burning around me in the state parks up here by San Jose. And it's the department of interior who takes care of the federal land you know BLM, and no don't set your demo heart on flutter, it's Bureau of Land Management and yeah I'll give them 30% of the blame.
 

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You can call me anything you like, just don't "call me Johnson":mad:
 

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60% of California"s forests are managed by the federal gov. Let's blame 60% of the fires on trump!
Go back and look at the post of Jon's, where he posted the map of the forest owned by the state and the fed's when Jon made the same liberal media claim.
I simply had him reexamine the map excluding the land that is scrub brush and desert. Most of the land the fed's own and manage is not Forest. Look at the map and the majority of those lands are on the eastern side of the mountains which have no real forest and it never burns like the states UNmanaged forests that have not been touched in a decade. Also, do a little research, often they stop the forest fires where the fed's have managed the forest.
There is little hope of stopping them in the state's unmanaged lands.
This then is another example of lying with statistics and fake news.
 
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Forests in San Jose?
How did modern man lose this knowledge? To the American Indians, it was common sense.
Do controlled burns each year when the grass and brush were low/young and it does not have enough fuel load to ignite the mature trees and brush evolved to tolerate being scorched.
These fires burn the low brush and grass often evolved to regrow from roots removing shade restricting seedling's growth and ashes fertilizer creating a perfect nursery for seedlings. Pine cones will not release their seeds until a fire heats them to higher than climate temperatures so there is a perfect nursery to give their offspring the best chance of survival.

The first plants to grow back are grasses, which creates an abundant food source for herbivores. Dear and rabbits etc. are attracted to these burned areas and their numbers grow as they do not like the brush with fewer nutrients.
For Native American Indians, there was a 2nd MAJOR benefit it moved the grocery store to their backyard, filled the shelve with more game they preferred, and it saved their forest.

With global warming, it is more important than ever in our history to burn this off EVERY YEAR. This used to be common sense the same as socialism has failed where ever it has manifested all throughout mankind's history.

Don’t believe managed logging works look at the difference in California and judge which is better for the forest after a fire. Natural looks or the forest, homes, and animals and humans' lives destroyed or logged were the trees are not close enough to light the tops of each other on fire.
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Looks like "Change my Vote" is trending - Democrat voters remorse ?
this is exactly why the Dems have been pushing for all of their voters to VOTE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. There is no other reason, it was because they were afraid (rightly so) that after the debates they would see or hear biden's slip up or he would talk about shutting down again, or Trump would get the evidence needed to completely expose the Biden's corruption beyond a reasonable doubt and the insuing investigation would influence people to change and vote for Trump or the independent, just not vote for Biden.
 

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John, apparently you know not a fucking thing about California north of Bakersfield; everything east of the San Joaquin, Sacramento valleys is forested. Everything west of the Sacramento valley is forested; everything north of the Sacramento Valley is forested. Of course, all the major urban areas are not forested are the valleys within the forests.
 

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NO KISS KISS NO BANG BANG You Kamalatoe & Sloppy Joe supporters are "Special" An Anchor baby and a street hood. Yea. upstanding people (Not)
 
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John, apparently you know not a fucking thing about California north of Bakersfield; everything east of the San Joaquin, Sacramento valleys is forested. Everything west of the Sacramento valley is forested; everything north of the Sacramento Valley is forested. Of course, all the major urban areas are not forested are the valleys within the forests.
Jay just go look at the map. The golden hills of CA were not named for gold! It was named because most of California is semiarid only receiving 7" of rain a year if lucky and the SCRUB BRUSH turned golden right after the WINTER for as far as the eye can see when the pioneers came into CA from the east it is miles of the desert then golden scrub brush not forest they see. They would have to travel at least another month to get to the forest of Northern CA forest.

Then they had to climb and cross mountains which are mostly in the middle of our state dividing it almost in 1/2 with deserts on the eastern side of the mountains. Only northern CA is different.

Northern CA is in the mountains not east of them as all the rest of the state. Just use common sense compare the fed land on the east side of the mountains and it's over 75% non-forest In San Digo county it sand dunes all the way to AZ border. For goodness sake, almost all of
You are comparing only 25 to 35% of the state is not mostly a forest the rest is not.
Without the water from northern CA and the colorado river, we would be mostly desert.

If you did any research yourself or even just stopped to question this fake news you could figure it out if you wish to know reality and not blindly follow the PARTY propaganda and lying with statics. Reality the Fed does own 60% of the land but from just above LA it is almost all desert and scrub brush, not forest. The Fed may own at the most 30% to 35% of our FORESTS compared to the State-owned 70% of the FOREST and almost all of that is only in Northern Ca!
 
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John, apparently you know not a fucking thing about California north of Bakersfield; everything east of the San Joaquin, Sacramento valleys is forested. Everything west of the Sacramento valley is forested; everything north of the Sacramento Valley is forested. Of course, all the major urban areas are not forested are the valleys within the forests.
Ever see the San Bernardino National Forest? 🤗 Laguna Hills State park? 😘 Big Bear?😬 State park Santa Catalina?:unsure: They all burned once
 

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John your fucking nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your posting gibberish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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33 million forested acres in California, federal lands 57%, privately owned lands 40%, state and local agencies including land trusts 3%.
 
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