OOPS Caught in the act! Part II

Mike Schallmann

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Sounds like pure BS to me -- Birth Certificates are public records -- anybody can find out when and where a person was born --
 

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Mike,
Not unless one isn't in the system. They can't find it if it isn't there! Good chance obama's isn't there. I think he (Obama) is a master at deception because no-one has forced him to do anything he doesn't want to do.
From what I saw he doesn't even cover his heart for the American Anthem. And he says he is not Muslim. If he is not muslim now what kinda guy would change his religeon for political gain? I know, the kind you and I can't trust.
 

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fiveboy,

I heard he made em use the koran when they swore him in any time before.

Is the koran an acceptable bible?
 

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I don't put my hand over my heart during a national athem. Does that make me a Muslim? Or for that fact, does that make me any less of a patriot? Symbolism is hardly an acurate means of measuring ones beliefs.
And yes, the koran is a bible, just not your'e bible. What ever happened to tollerance for freedom of religion, or from it.
 

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Mark.---Im a Viet Vet and if you understood protocol you would understand that putting your hand over your heart during the playing of the National Anthem is not needed required or suggested by anyone - standing is the accecpted practice during the National Anthem- It is part of the protocol to put your hand over your heart during the reciting of The Pledge of Allegiance--

I also severely doubt that he put his hand on the Koran during any swearing in ceremony-- "I heard" is simply hearsay --which in 99.9% of the cases is pure BS....
 

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There was a US Congressman last election who was sworn in on the Koran, (I think it was Thomas Jefferson's copy) but it wasn't Obama.
And let's look at the flip side. If a non-Christian swears on the bible, would it really mean anything? Certainly wouldn't to him/her. Jewish politicians are sworn in on the King James bible all the time, but the New Testament in no part of the Jewish faith. That doesn't mean their oath is any less important to them. In court, it used to be that no matter what your religion, or lack thereof, you swore on the bible, although many courts no longer require that. What's the point of it? Either you're honorable or you're not, and I believe most people are. What religion you follow has no bearing on that. I'll lay my hand on any book, magazine or fresh-caught flounder you like. My oath means I'll do what I say. What my hand is resting on means nothing.

Unless her husband catches me...
 

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Truer words were never spoken--
 

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Sir Real,

A flounder???? :usa2: :hail:

Hope to catch some in the morning myself.

I'll git you one OK.

It already looks to me like the man is in there now.

One of my most admired is from right here in Louisiana and man would I like to meet him one day is James Carvelle.

James says it in the bag already for Obama.

If Obama does half of what he says he will do it will make this country a decent place to live again.

Obama is real big on donating your time to worthy causes.

I just wish we knew more about Mrs. Obama and her view on everything.

After all Mrs. Obama is gonna be his sounding board every night before he goes to bed and wakes up in the morning.

I'd like to know what she thinks and how she feels about American people in general.
 

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I stand CORRECTED --I just checked out :United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Section 171--You ARE supposed to place your hand over your heart while it is playing--
 

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Every time I had to re up my clearance I had to sign my name where it said I would be a good guy. Every time I did that I realized it meant nothing because it was just me saying I would be a good guy.

Obama will surround himself with smart people who know what they are doing. Obmama isnt going to influence squat (except maybe his mood and complexion).

The President is a figurehead. His power is limited by the checks and balances built in as well as the law. Yes he can head us in a sucky direction (see last 8 years) but that is largely a matter of culture derived from the "team" he assembles.

Arab, anti christ, socialist, non American, terrorist..... these are all the concepts and strategies of anti American leanings.

The country needs help. He will offer a better chance at it. The man is already a historic figure and as Colin Powell said "a transformational figure". But there are no doubt those who are saying he probably just said that because he black.... duh.

What he puts his hand on means squat... its whats in his heart.
 

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Last 8 years

Last 8 years

I seem to have missed something in the last 16 years. I heard it was all bad in Clinton's 8. But I went to work every day, know lots of people that did the same. People bought homes, cars, boats, planes, eh and gyros.

In the last 8 it still looked the same to me. A few exceptions tho. The construction of new homes, apts, and stores was way up than the previous 8. And if the economy was so bad in the last 8, then how in the world did all these ceo's and stockbrokers make sooooo much money. And again I got raises, I have bought and sold, and never missed a meal. I work at a regular job of which I make enough to live ok in my mobile home with my wife of 39 yrs where we raised 5 kids. I have the freedom and the opportunity to run my own lawn care business which affords me a gyro and other unnessary things.

I am 61 yrs old and cannot tell you how my life has been any different under any of the presidents I have had. It has always been life as usual. I am a simple man with a simple life and I would NOT want to live any where else in the world. I LOVE AMERICA I am HAPPY what is there to change?
 

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rogerdodger,

Every time I see Obama on TV he wants to change it.

He did say "America was the best place in the world to live" and that he wanted to change it.

Hum, I wonder if he wants to change it for the worst?
 

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rogerdodger,

Every time I see Obama on TV he wants to change it.

He did say "America was the best place in the world to live" and that he wanted to change it.

Hum, I wonder if he wants to change it for the worst?
Yeah he want to change the fact that those who have worked hard all of their life to put away a savings and can afford to do the things they want, he wants to tax that and give it to all the poor that do not want to work, but somehow think that housing and free stuff is a constitutional right.
 

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Sheldon,

YOUR A IGNORAMUS :director::director::director::director:
 
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