New Board ?

[barnstorm2]

Isn't the airport generating revenue from rent, etc? Does that money go toward the payoff of the airport? Once the airport is paid for where will the revenue stream go then?

Tim, Tom Milton posted that the revenue goes to the PRA.

Ken, why did I not see your name on the Ballot this year?

 

[GyroChuck]

Dean, correct me if I'm wrong. Was it not agreed on to publish the new document in the PRA magazine?

Of course with the lead time needed for the publisher it might take two months. I'd rather see it on the PRA web site.

 

[Dean_Dolph]

.....Let's see that wording please....or do we have to wait while the attorneys and accountants look at it?

For everyone's info, it is my understanding that the PRA treasurer is an accountant. He is the one that led the charge to modify the wording. It is also my understanding that in the process an attorney(s?) reviewed the document. Then again that happened the first time and there were those who didn't want to accept that everything was on the up and up so it is not surprising that they do not want to accept what is in place now.

I would like to point out that in the process of protesting, that all of us that understand that everything is on the up and up are being called sneaky liers with no integrity. Insulting? Sure it is, but I learned a long time ago that when I know I'm right then I don't have to justify myself to anyone and I extend that to the PRA BOD.

I would suggest that if anyone really wanted satisfaction on this issue and it was as important to them, as they try to make it appear by posting here, they would make an effort to arrange a face to face meeting with whoever at Mentone or Bensen Days. Did any of you protestors do that?

 

[Dean_Dolph]

Chuck, I took a bunch of notes at both the life members meeting and the general membership meeting and didn't make note if publishing the document in question was agreed too. If you recall, I did push for publishing the financial report but didn't get a definitive answer on whether that will be done. It was standard practice at one time.

I'm hoping that the web site team gets the members only section built soon so that this type of info can be placed there. If nothing else it would release pages in the mag for other use.

I believe everyone on the BOD understands that there is a serious communication problem that needs to be addressed. How it gets addressed is the issue. I never did any serious campaigning for the BOD except for the profile in the mag. And in that profile I made it clear that I felt communication was the key to problem prevention and solving.

It is my observation that there are those on the BOD that quite frankly are afraid of the power of the internet. And why wouldn't they be when all they see is the negative side and not the positive effect it can have. I proposed, and still believe, that a BOD liason role, between the BOD and the Internet community, should be created so that issues that pop up can be handled in a timely manner and the communication becomes two-way. Hopefully these proposals have merit and the BOD will implement them.

 

[Dean_Dolph]

So whomever is elected president next year will automatically become the president of PRA Mentone?

That was how it was explained at the life members meeting. I would feel better if that explanation became part of the by-laws.

Who voted Gary in as PRA Mentone president?

Obviously the BOD since they select the PRA officers from their ranks.

Better yet, who authorized the setup of PRA Mentone? Why was it a cloesely-held secret for so many years?

Secret? I don't think it was a secret and it wasn't even an issue until a couple of disgruntled ex-BOD members decided to make it one. Then the gullible that like conspiracy theories bit and away we went?

..... awe-struck by so-called authority figures. Feh.

Ha! Most of my ex-bosses and military officers would be real surprised if you apply that assessment to me.

 

[KenSandyEggo]

"For everyone's info, it is my understanding that the PRA treasurer is an accountant. He is the one that led the charge to modify the wording. It is also my understanding that in the process an attorney(s?) reviewed the document."

"......my understanding" X 2 are weasel-words, Dean. Can you imagine someone testifying in a trial and is asked how they know that Ziggy committed the burglary and they say, "Well, it is my understanding." My understanding is that you and others were fed a bunch of hooey. Where's the document for us to see?

 

[GyroChuck]

I proposed, and still believe, that a BOD liason role, between the BOD and the Internet community, should be created so that issues that pop up can be handled in a timely manner and the communication becomes two-way. Hopefully these proposals have merit and the BOD will implement them.

Dean, I believe Tom Milton has been trying to do just that. He seems to be getting shot down with his every reply. Even though he's no longer on the BOD he still trying. As for me I give up. I'll stick to the other posts.

 

[Dean_Dolph]

Chuck, I'm not sure that Tom is acting as a liason as much as he is as a defendent!

When I talk about liason I'm talking about someone on the BOD that officially monitors the internet, which includes this forum, and presents issues, attaboys or whatever to the PRA BOD. In turn the liason then presents an official BOD response to issues. The liason could also present BOD questions for the gyro community. Sure, there would be responses from non-PRA members but that is okay in my mind. Since this forum has poll capability it makes it ideal to find out the pulse of the community.

 

[barnstorm2]

Dean,

I think that would be a good thing but as we discussed in a thread last year.. Some posters think the PRA has some kind of full-time PR and Legal department running 24/7 to answer every hair-brained hypothsis that comes to mind at 2:30am. If they don't get an answer pronto they start thinking their $40 membership has been robbed and they pitch a fit.

 

[Dean_Dolph]

......If they don't get an answer pronto they start thinking their $40 membership has been robbed and they pitch a fit.

Well, yeah, but people pitch a fit anyhow! I say if it makes them feel better let 'em pitch it! It's a mental health thing ya know.

But for the majority of reasonable people that visit here I think it would be a good thing. I would expect a PRA liason to have the good sense to recognize who the reasonable ones are. And if not, then disengage as quickly and graciously as possible.

 

[BUD ONEAL]

Lets see,
$40.00 per year membership in pra= 10 12 very good quality magazines= several pleasent hours reading the first time.Save them and there is several more very enjoyable hrs. reading
$40.00 = one trip to McDonalds for greasy hamburgers and cold limp fries for four= several hours of bad heartburn for the same four.
I'll take the pra membership any time. I have never been to Mentone and I don't care who runs it,I don't care who owns it. It is there for me to use whenever I do deciede to go.Don't have to be during a convention eithor. It was a good deal then and it is a good deal now. So why not get a life and and enjoy it. None of us has the time to be so negative. Our time on earth is measured and we don't know when the ticket is to be punched,
Just my nickles worthI Bud

 

[Steve McGowan]

Mentone Airport Sold

Mentone Airport Sold

Think I'll grow peanuts there this year, Or maybe Prickly Pear Cactus, Hell egg plants sounds good.. Or maybe something to help Awad with his headache.

Cotton is a good crop, best yet a set of new gas pumps with an unlimited supply of high-test gas that only I have the combination to use.. No I'd let Ora Cook and the Southern Boys in , But it'll have to age like fine wine till we get back the next year...

Sound great to me.... Oh Yea,,, Gary said it's ok to tell Yall.

Steve McGowan

 

[animal]

Think I'll grow peanuts there this year, Or maybe Prickly Pear Cactus, Hell egg plants sounds good.. Or maybe something to help Awad with his headache.

Cotton is a good crop, best yet a set of new gas pumps with an unlimited supply of high-test gas that only I have the combination to use.. No I'd let Ora Cook and the Southern Boys in , But it'll have to age like fine wine till we get back the next year...

Sound great to me.... Oh Yea,,, Gary said it's ok to tell Yall.

Steve McGowan

Steve you truly worry me sometimes...lol
Hope to see ya at ROC this year.

we knew there was more to Ron's soybean field flight,he was practiceing for Steve's crop harvesting...

Tim H.

 

[gyromike]

Steve,

Don't forget to build us a crawfish pond too!

 

[PW_Plack]

Dean said,

"...there are those on the BOD that quite frankly are afraid of the power of the internet. And why wouldn't they be when all they see is the negative side..."

At least one new board member, Jim Mayfield, knew the secret to avoiding the negative side of the forum back in his GBA days. When something's going on, even if it's something with the potential to make you look bad, tell the truth. Then, if there are any remaining questions, tell the truth some more.

This inward-looking attitude has resulted in the PRA having far less influence on a newcomer to gyroplanes than does the internet. If the truth about the BOD's actions with our money would embarrass somebody, then they deserve to be embarrassed - time's a wastin'!

 

[Heron]

Carry on . . .I am listening!
Heron