Nashua, New Hampshire - Magni M24 N327JD - 15th Jan 2020

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NASHUA - Emergency crews are responding to reports of a gyrocopter crash at Nashua Municipal Airport. Nashua fire officials confirmed firefighters were dispatched to Nashua Municipal Airport at Boire Field, 93 Perimeter Rd. in Nashua, around 3 p.m. for reports of an experimental aircraft down in the middle of a runway. Fire and police officials said the crash involves a gyrocopter, and with at least one person injured.
 

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Local news report - NECN appears to show a yellow Magni M24 - good news pilot minor injuries

 

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Update - The FAA ASIAS summary says "AIRCRAFT ON DEPARTURE ROLL WENT OFF THE RUNWAY, NASHUA, NH. " damage substantial.

N327JD is a very new machine - newly registered in October 2019
 

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From the looks of the gyro from the overhead news helicopter, the Magni took a hard hit on the last couple of feet of it's tail boom, from the angle it is bent upwards (best seen at the very briefly shown view @ 1:02-1:03 of the newscast video). The entire tail assembly is missing from the tail boom. It may be the yellow debris on the ground underneath the rotorhead & cockpit area. Appears to have hit hard tail first, maybe at an extreme angle of perhaps 60-70 degrees.

Perhaps a pop-up off the ground, after too much A/S taking off, resulting in becoming extremely nose high, and gravity was more powerful than the ability of the rotors to climb out that way.
 
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Great reporting as usual for aviation: It had a hard landing on its takeoff roll.

Glad the pilot is OK.
 

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Injuries at this time are listed as unknown on the ACIAS report.

The owner of the aircraft has a Sport Pilot, Gyroplane certificate issued 6/7/2019.

Hopefully we will find out more.
 

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I wish MORE CFI's would get onboard with Phil Harwood's Gyropedia efforts ...THIS accident jumps out at me screaming ...of a "rotor-handling" FUBAR! ( Magni in USA have had an amazing stellar record ...certainly in the 7 years I have been around gyros ...compared to all other brands ...and I suspect much of that has been due to their training curriculum and the old-school CFI's like Greg G. )
When I asked about what they do for insurance within the Magni owners group ...seems they "self-insure" - good machine - good training ...reputable pilots become Magni owners & infused with a culture of responsibility! ....... so this accident is quite a shocker!
Very sorry to hear ...prayers for healing & understanding! ( & sharing what happened)!
 

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I wish MORE CFI's would get onboard with Phil Harwood's Gyropedia efforts ...THIS accident jumps out at me screaming ...of a "rotor-handling" FUBAR! ( Magni in USA have had an amazing stellar record ...certainly in the 7 years I have been around gyros ...compared to all other brands ...and I suspect much of that has been due to their training curriculum and the old-school CFI's like Greg G. )
When I asked about what they do for insurance within the Magni owners group ...seems they "self-insure" - good machine - good training ...reputable pilots become Magni owners & infused with a culture of responsibility! ....... so this accident is quite a shocker!
Very sorry to hear ...prayers for healing & understanding! ( & sharing what happened)!
At the AZ course Phil also predicted we’d see more blade flaps in 915iS-powered gyros. My understanding is this is such a gyro and it sounds like he may be correct - just speculating.

The technique he taught there is sound: learn what your throttle position is for cruise and set power there first during takeoff till the nosewheel starts coming off and the rotor is increasing RPM on its own, then (and only then) increase power to climb power, which for a fire-breathing 915iS (or even a 914) may not be full throttle, especially on a cold day solo.
 

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That is an excellent technique for the new powerful engines. Just because one has a lot of reserve of power does not mean that it needs to be used on the take off. The extra HP is for extra weight on a hot day (Tech term: density altitude). Once airborne, it is not an issue if the gyroplane tends to drift, which can be corrected by suitable control application. Problems abound in take off during the ground roll with excessive power application. Blade flap, going off the runway, nose whipping up, to name a few. (Tech terms: power yaw and power pitch couplings)
Be gentle, caress the throttle and the rotor RPM.
 

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Wondering if the accident pilot came into gyros from airplanes, & forgot his training WRT rotorblade management.
 

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I understand he had some FW time but no rating. And it was apparently more than a basic blade flap. And only 10 hours on the gyro itself.
 

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Chris and others, why the certainty it is blade flap and not getting behind the power curve on takeoff with a resulting tail strike? The higher power engine makes it less likely but not impossible. I have seen the latter in one case with a friend at Wauchula in a 914 powered MTO with what would appear to be similar destruction of the tail and tail boom.
 

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Problems abound in take off during the ground roll with excessive power application. Blade flap, going off the runway, nose whipping up, to name a few. (Tech terms: power yaw and power pitch couplings)
Be gentle, caress the throttle and the rotor RPM.
Excellent points raised with regard to excess power, and TO, a situation not often faced by the majority of gyros. Certainly something I am looking at and thinking about with the single seat 912ULS.

Have had this on fixed wing with big engine small plane/rudder. Pitts with bigger engine, think 200hp, did not use full power for TO due rudder authority.
 

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Just imagine a takeoff in a Republic P47, a WWII single radial engine taildragger with 2600 hp at full turbocharged throttle. The yaw when the tail came up must have been astonishing.
 

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best source of info so far is in post #3 - here from FAA ASIAS

Update - The FAA ASIAS summary says "AIRCRAFT ON DEPARTURE ROLL WENT OFF THE RUNWAY, NASHUA, NH. " damage substantial.

N327JD is a very new machine - newly registered in October 2019
 

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Chris and others, why the certainty it is blade flap and not getting behind the power curve on takeoff with a resulting tail strike? The higher power engine makes it less likely but not impossible. I have seen the latter in one case with a friend at Wauchula in a 914 powered MTO with what would appear to be similar destruction of the tail and tail boom.
What you say is possible Jeffrey because he may not have had full power in being cautious with the new, more powerful aircraft.

I feel that presuming it is a blade sailing event is premature.

Magni is conspicuously absent of blade sailing events in the NTSB reports.

It appears to me Dayton Dabbs trained the pilot and in my opinion he is a particularly good flight instructor.

In my opinion a medical event is also a possibility.
 
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