Mentone Aero Club - September 2020

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If I were just copying the existing pages we have now I would use it in a minute it is using content management so would be exactly the same as what we have now, but look and display better. But our site sucks in my opinion. But how to copy all the new pages as they come from the database?
The price of just the accounting plugin would be $600 a year to replace my free one. And it does not do tax returns, sales tax by state, create logbook entries out of the invoice for CFI's and many other features we need that mine does. When I ask the plug-in company if I could add to or change these features they said no.
That is the same reason Amazon does not use WordPress.

If we use WordPress adding the other plug-ins we would need. It will end up costing us thousands of dollars a YEAR to rent the plug-in and would need to hire web administrators.
All that money with fewer automated features? It would be much easier but so many less automated features and a waste of money renting forever.

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Have you ever written a plug-in for WordPress????

OK, it appears I would need to learn how to write plug-ins if I want PRA to own all the features I have already written for free.
I will research that. Maybe they are just DLLs, that my code behind could easily be turned into.
 
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If we did not need to rent so many plug-ins that cost so much I would use WordPress.
At this point, I think I should try and learn CSS, and if I cannot get what I have now online by 10/31/2020 change to WordPress. I've not written the storefront or the classified ads. Hoping to just copy and existing ones and modify them.
PS:
I rent cars to travel but I also jump them like off-road vehicles and test all of their max speed. It's a hobby like any other.
But I hate to rent just about anything else that I use everyday!!!
I was 17, married in high school, rented for only two years. bought my first house when 19. I hate to rent all I do is make other rich at my expense.
That is the only problem I have with WordPress and why I choose to write the code for free. Besides I've been programming since 1974 until I retired in 1990. Only not websites programming but it's just C#.
 
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Also, I've created an automatic page creator and add & update functions that reads the database file and created the controls for me on a blank page about 3 months ago. I now create webpages in a day including testing. I'm lazy so I've automated my job. I have to add one function line of code for either update or adding records only passing the Table name and it looks for the controls on the page that have the data field with the same variable names as the database. FOR example, I only have to write SQL_Add("TableName") and place it in a button command. It check the data and returns the fields the user needs to fix or returns Added.

All I have to do now is make it look pretty and fit any screen size and move the controls created where I want them or remove the ones I do not want to be updated by the user of this page.
It tells me if I need a variable and it cannot be nothing or if the data is a letter and not a number etc as the database knows what it needs.
With a little effort, it would allow a nonprogrammer to program a page by just creating a table in a database and run my auto page creator that I use. With a front end, they never have to write one word of code to add or update anything.
Both the auto page creator and the auto-add and update programs could be sold on their own as plug-ins for anything.

However, the PRA site will be up and then I may just give this to one of the colleges as a project. Software engineers will be amazed at its simplicity and programming automation. This just needs a user front end much like WordPress. Where you only tell it the tables you want and the variable you want drag them where you want them and they are done.
 
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There are over 1200 pages. Most administration pages. But it takes at least 30 minutes to test the page in an add, see, change and delete modes.and check the data manually to assure it correct. That's 30 min's if I find no bugs!!!

30 min's / 1200 pages are 600 hours of testing alone. Even though I work 20 hours days that is still 30 days of testing. But I cannot work on it full time have to run PRA, 9 college projects, help PRA 31 members build their rides, create the group insurance program, market fly-in, webcast, batch email news and so much more.

If you need volunteers for testing I would be glad to help out. I have experience with programming, web development, and MS SQL Server.
 

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If you need volunteers for testing I would be glad to help out. I have experience with programming, web development, and MS SQL Server.
Yaw Mon, Darrell that would be a Godsend!!!!!
Going to El Mirage fly-in tomorrow and next week the college starts classes I'll be presenting the projects to them all next week.
The following week is when I hope to resume testing and would love your help!!!
U-Rock!

Can you email me at my name John Rountree, no spaces or dots, @msn.com, and we will exchange contact information?
I love how we all help others on this forum!!! Wish the rest of the world was like this!
 

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Have you tried the Wayback Machine?
The worst part about what we paid for this piece of crap and there is no source code. I've been hacking a complied site and keeping it running.
It has not been easy and I cannot wait to get rid of it.
 
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