Instruments for rear panel for M-16.

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
My Magni has the 912 ULS. Cheap but good, and it's not like I'm living in Colorado or anything...
 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
I agree: at 100hp the ULS has pretty much the same power as the 914, except at altitude, or for those 5 mins the 914 is allowed +15%.
 

XXavier

Member
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
1,333
Location
Madrid, Spain
Aircraft
ELA R-100 and Magni M24 autogyros
Total Flight Time
694 gyro (Apr. 2021)
I have not flown my M-16 yet. Still working on the instruments, prop, etc. AFAIK Magni makes gyros with 912, 912iS, 914 & 915iS. I don't like carburated engines and I don't like the price of 915iS (also I don't think I need a power of 915 on M-16), so I went with 912iS for M-16.


It's a fine gyro, the M16 with 912. I should have picked up the M16 instead of the ELA that I have now. The construction has a better quality, service is far better, and stick shake is rare. The only thing I don't like of the Magnis is the straight keel, but one gets used to it...
 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
It was a very experienced gyro flyer and CFI (not my CFI) that convinced me to go with the 912 ULS. He had previously owned several machines with the 914. He said "Go with the new 912. I wish I could have all that extra money back" (from buying 914s), after flying one with the 912 ULS.
The 914 costs about 40% (!) more, for a heavier, more complicated setup, with really not much more power except at high altitudes.
Inquiring Mind, why do you prefer fuel-injection to carburetion? The only real benefit I see is the lower fuel burn...
 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
It's a fine gyro, the M16 with 912. I should have picked up the M16 instead of the ELA that I have now. The construction has a better quality, service is far better, and stick shake is rare. The only thing I don't like of the Magnis is the straight keel, but one gets used to it...
That straight keel is, of course, a very deliberate design choice. I don't have very much experience flying bent-keel machines, but I have no problem with the straight keel. And to me it just looks so much more clean, elegant, and even sturdier. :)
 

Inquiring Mind

Active Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2019
Messages
322
Location
USA
Inquiring Mind, why do you prefer fuel-injection to carburetion?
I don't like the idea of flying on carburated engine, can't convince myself to trust them. Plus I don't want to to do any work related to maintanance of 2 carburators. And I like the availability of Fuel Flow Data from FADEC of fuel injected engine. Fuel economy of 25-30% is a plus too.
 

Inquiring Mind

Active Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2019
Messages
322
Location
USA
And to me it just looks so much more clean, elegant, and even sturdier. :)
Yep. To be honest, when I knew nothing about gyros and brands, I disliked specifically Magni's straight kiel. The more I learned about the materials used by different manufacturers in their frames, and other design details differences, the more I liked the look of M-24 & M-16. :)
 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
I don't like the idea of flying on carburated engine, can't convince myself to trust them. Plus I don't want to to do any work related to maintanance of 2 carburators. And I like the availability of Fuel Flow Data from FADEC of fuel injected engine. Fuel economy of 25-30% is a plus too.
Funny, I'm sort of the opposite... I don't really trust two computers that I don't really understand to keep me flying. As far as fuel economy, it's certainly a plus for range, but I think it would take many, many hours for the dollar savings on fuel to pay for the extra initial investment.
 
Last edited:

DavePA11

Active Member
Joined
Nov 16, 2015
Messages
868
Location
USA
I like the Magni construction too. Similar to the SportCopter.

Inquiring Mind - I had a Cub and Sportcopter, and found I was flying the Sportcopter all the time. I guess you can divide the time with M16 during summer, and M24 during the winter. :) Or maybe the M24 in the morning when its cold, and M16 in the afternoon when its warmer! Very difficult problem so solve. :)
 

Inquiring Mind

Active Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2019
Messages
322
Location
USA
I like the Magni construction too. Similar to the SportCopter.

Inquiring Mind - I had a Cub and Sportcopter, and found I was flying the Sportcopter all the time. I guess you can divide the time with M16 during summer, and M24 during the winter. :) Or maybe the M24 in the morning when its cold, and M16 in the afternoon when its warmer! Very difficult problem so solve. :)
Yeah, that's a good problem to have. :) I'm thinking M24 - for cross-country, or cold weather, or for really young passengers, while M-16 is for local summer flights. If it happens that I don't fly much one of them - I'll sell it.
 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
I'm not sure what the big problem is with cold-weather flying; you just have to dress properly... no one complains about all these open cockpit snowmobiles! ;)
 

Inquiring Mind

Active Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2019
Messages
322
Location
USA
Here is one of the reasons I prefer fuel injected engine to carburated one, received it today from Rotax (it is a second mandatory SB in just one year related to carburators on 912 & 914 engines):

NEW SERVICE BULLETIN:​

h5MgvI3B_NBA79fwairNOgZDfXKahx9noQw4mSdaXeEi0WaNsyDKi4etMnBo4J9NWqC9IYYG7MqzOy9RJBH5xrS35oQahzagdgXAaqo=s0-d-e1-ft

Exchange of floats (pair) on ROTAX® Engine Type 912 and 914 (Series) and 2-stroke (series)​

SB-912-074 / SB-914-056​

 

Tyger

Super Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2017
Messages
992
Location
Germantown, NY
Aircraft
Magni M16
Total Flight Time
360
I weighed my floats in March as part of my annual and changed them out because they were out of spec, so I've already complied. Not a big deal.
What was the other mandatory service bulletin this year?
 
Top