Hurricane / Tropical Storm Hilliary

[okikuma]

Yes, it has had water since the first few floodings in the early 1900's, but it is my understanding that it had a significantly higher water level
(Fresh water that allowedan aquaculture to form) and the original die off was from salt and mineralization from the old sea floor and run off from the mountains. The chemicals came later.....

For many decades, flood irrigation was the norm so all the excess runoff flowed into the Salton Sea. When sprinkler irrigation became the norm, much less runoff flowed to the sea and the increase of salt/brine as evaporation was greater than refill. The man made chemicals started flowing into the sea ever since WW2.

Back in 2019, my wife and I drove around the Salton Sea to look at all the various ruins.

Wayne

 

[okikuma]

As expected, and what I had mentioned previously, Palm Springs and surrounding cities in the Cochella Valley were hit hard with flooding and wind damage. Access in and out of the area is very limited due to remaining flooding and washed out roads. Our friends that live there are fine, and our condo in Palm Desert fared well with no perceived damage as viewed from our security cameras.

Wayne

 

[Resasi]

That is a lot of water in a short time, and sadly yet another example of the extreme weather currently being experienced around the globe.

Now...in some part explained by the very interesting link posted on this thread and NOT entirely due to the various other 'reasons' put forward by various 'theorists' for the recent extreme weather events.

As for the 'Salton Sea' it brings to my mind the film starring Val Kilmer some years ago. A somewhat disjointed film with him cast as a failed trumpet player who loses his wife killed by some crooked cops, and a very convoluted plot. I seem to remember him acting rather well in it.

Meanwhile it is looking pretty wet:-

 

[Aerofoam]

For many decades, flood irrigation was the norm so all the excess runoff flowed into the Salton Sea. When sprinkler irrigation became the norm, much less runoff flowed to the sea and the increase of salt/brine as evaporation was greater than refill. The man made chemicals started flowing into the sea ever since WW2.

Back in 2019, my wife and I drove around the Salton Sea to look at all the various ruins.

Wayne

Me and a friend did an off road trip in 2018 across the "Camino de Diablo" in S Az.. had to get multiple permits, bombing range etc...
The trip ended up only taking 1.5 days instead of 3 days as written by others due to border patrol dragging the roads so much that they are better than most roads in Tucson. With extra time we went to "Slab City" (Interesting SH## hole) then Salton Sea where we towed out a young couple with their 4x4 stuck in the sand, then we went up the gondola to the Jacinto Forest (I think)...
Anyway, that was a bucket list adventure because I always saw the signs for the gondola going through Indio as a kid and my parents never had any interest in going there..... That road trip packed a lot of adventure into a short few days!
I may try to do it again and the Patton Museum on the way to El Mirage........

 

[Aerofoam]

That is a lot of water in a short time, and sadly yet another example of the extreme weather currently being experienced around the globe.

Now...in some part explained by the very interesting link posted on this thread and NOT entirely due to the various other 'reasons' put forward by various 'theorists' for the recent extreme weather events.

As for the 'Salton Sea' it brings to my mind the film starring Val Kilmer some years ago. A somewhat disjointed film with him cast as a failed trumpet player who loses his wife killed by some crooked cops, and a very convoluted plot. I seem to remember him acting rather well in it.

Meanwhile it is looking pretty wet:-

There is a very good documentary on the Salton Sea, I can't remember who produced it, but I think it was on PBS......

 

[dabkb2]

In San Diego County, there is a very famous all wood Goat Canyon Railroad Trestle that is around 90 years old. I wonder how it will hold up to the winds and rain?

Wayne


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I will be going to see that when it cools down.

 

[okikuma]

Me and a friend did an off road trip in 2018 across the "Camino de Diablo" in S Az.. had to get multiple permits, bombing range etc...
The trip ended up only taking 1.5 days instead of 3 days as written by others due to border patrol dragging the roads so much that they are better than most roads in Tucson. With extra time we went to "Slab City" (Interesting SH## hole) then Salton Sea where we towed out a young couple with their 4x4 stuck in the sand, then we went up the gondola to the Jacinto Forest (I think)...
Anyway, that was a bucket list adventure because I always saw the signs for the gondola going through Indio as a kid and my parents never had any interest in going there..... That road trip packed a lot of adventure into a short few days!
I may try to do it again and the Patton Museum on the way to El Mirage........

The General George S. Patton Memorial Museum at Chiriaco Summit is a must stop if one enjoys military history.

George S. Patton Memorial Museum, CA - DesertUSA

On February 5, 1942, Lt. General Lesley J. McNair, Chief of Staff, General Headquarters, gave his approval to a plan developed to stop Germany's advance in Northern Africa. He designated Major General George S. Patton, Jr. to establish the Desert Training Center for the purpose of training men...

www.desertusa.com

Here's a funny story about Patton and my Dad.

At the same time Patton was on maneuvers there in the California desert, my Dad was training to be a Bombardier at Victorville Army Airfield (later to become George AFB). Patton called Victorville AAF base operations asking for "Bombers" to fly out and search the Desert Training Center to find Patton and his armored units that were out in the field under camouflage. A number of AT-11 Kansans were tasked with the duty. Instead of practice bombs, one pound bags with white flower inside and with a loop of twine at the neck of the bag were rigged up as "bombs" and mounted to the bomb racks inside the AT-11s. If I recall correctly, he said they had 12 flower bombs per plane. My Dad said Patton and his men were easy to find and see because the method of "camouflage" they tried out did not work. The squadron of AT-11s formed up and bombed the armor and ground forces. My Dad said when he was aiming with his bombsite, he noticed something bright and reflective in the ravine so he used that as the aiming point. They released their "bombs" and headed back to the airfield. Back in operations, a sergeant came in and said that Major General Patton has called, screaming over the telephone and want's the name of the SOB that hit him in the head with a flower bomb! The bright and reflective "item" was Patton's polished helmet! BULLSEYE!

Wayne

 

[okikuma]

Also if you have the time, visit the Episcopal Church of Our Savior in San Gabriel, CA. This is the church that Patton's parents and grandparents belong to when he was a child.

Wayne

General George S. Patton Jr. Memorial Window and House - Southern Califonia Patton Sites - San Marino - San Gabriel

General George S. Patton Jr. Memorial Window Our Savior Church and Patton House in Southern Califonia - San Marino - San Gabriel

www.bargaintravelwest.com

 

[okikuma]

Some photos of Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Palm Desert, and Indio flooding.

Fred Waring Drive in Palm Desert. About a mile from our condo.

Flooding across Interstate 10 in Indio, CA

Stranded Union Pacific freight train. The train crew had to be rescued by EMS.