kolibri282;n1140248 said:I understand that the report below had been prepared before all the disasters mentioned in this thread took place. Warnings have been issued aplenty, so those who have eyes to see can take action. Those who prefer to bury their heads deep in the sand wont. Unfortunately all will pay the price that comes with climate change.
Some are getting way too preachy here...
Perhaps you are on the wrong forum. This one is for ... Rotorcraft.
The article is interesting, Chuck, but I think the whole question is way to complicated to come to a definite conclusion as someone who is not directly involved in that kind of research. The situation is a bit like boarding a plane. You have some idea how it flies but you'd probably not be able to get a Boeing 777 from New York to LA, you rely on someone trained for the job to do it. With scientific questions of that complexity you can get a basic idea but for the ultimate conclusion you have to rely on the experts too. The vast majority of scientists today call for action against climate change, despite some disagreement in minor areas. But then, was it Bertrand Russel who said: "The acolytes of a wrong belief can usually not be convinced, they simply die out." Only that this time it might be too late if we wait for that to happen.Al Gore doesn’t approve of this:
he arbitrarily throws in.... disappearing Arctic ice, the rising sea level, the weather extremes, starving polar bears....
which of course no one has ever claimed to be a consequence of climate change and with that simple trick he thinks he's getting away from explaining those phenomena like melting arctic ice and glaciers vanishing at an alarming rate as well as sea level rise. This is so cheap that it leaves me a bit speechless a "scientist" could really argue that way. But there's hope, Joanna. If those claiming to be the enlightened who free mankind from the fear of climate change all try to confuse simple folks by throwing around formulae and making that kind of "scientific" hullabaloo, only to avoid an answer as to the why and how of climate impact that everybody, from a burger flipping "Mc" employee to the average trash collector, can see just by looking at satellite pictures of ocean ice and glaciers over the last fifty or so years, the number of people who feel it's time to act will grow and it won't be just those who have lost their homes, or worse relatives, in recent disasters., the Syrian Civil War
The IPCC didn't exist until 1988, with no assessments until 1990, and of course there were no computer models in 1940 for predictions.Jean Claude;n1140271 said:To take the plane and cross the Atlantic I rely primarily on past successes rates of the carriers. What past successes can we attribute to previsions IPCC?
What did their models give over the cooling period from 1940 to 1975?
IPCC models to predict warming only require entering the initial temperature and CO 2 conditions, then add anthropogenic CO2 flow. So, what do the results of their models give by entering these datas from 1940? Do they show the observed cooling during the first thirty years?WaspAir;n1140278 said:Are you asking if they calibrate their current models using historical data?
Once again, Juergen, You forget that the question is not about climate change, but about anthropogenic causes. The systematic omission of this word in the disasters movies is intentionally intended to deceive the public.kolibri282 said:...to avoid an answer as to the why and how of climate impact that everybody, from a burger flipping "Mc" employee to the average trash collector, can see just by looking at satellite pictures of ocean ice and glaciers over the last fifty or so years...
In Germany even today energy from renewable sources is at times so abundant that the power plants would be glad could they store it in car batteries. Germany is working on a system linking power production and storage where both are highly distributed systems. Technically all problems are solved. You could even include solar power plants from the Sahara in the European grid. My company, Siemens, has connected New Zealand and Australia by a High Voltage Direct Current Link that feeds excess power from NZ to the Aussies with extremely low transmission losses. As I said, all technical means are available, it's a purely political decision whether we want to keep the Earth habitable....and as they say: there is no planet BThis does not reduce the CO2 release by one iota
Some vehicles should be electrified, JC: electric forklifts used in poorly ventilated areas, electric golf carts, electric wheel chairs and of course, Parisian scooters.Jean Claude;n1140322 said:If you think that anti-CO2 governments are sincere, why are they pushing for the electrification of vehicles? This does not reduce the CO2 release by one iota. It just moves to the electrical factory.
And it's also true with replacement by "clean" hydrogen engines... Except the hydrogen production plant
On the 11.11 at 11:11 o'clock the new Carnival season (which in German is called "Die fünfte Jahreszeit", = the fith season) has started here in Germany and your funny lecture would fit perfectly as a speech from the "Bütt" * in any beer tent.... great stuff, J-C!!!Juergen
I already see a future IPCC alert us that your long electric transmissions affectes the magnetic field protecting the Life from cosmic ray. Earth's dynamo is self excitating and this light anthropogenic currents have everything upset. The changes of the magnetic declination already are visible with a simple orientation compass. A new energetic transition is imperious !
PS: This is a question that probably goes to the one who opened this thread in "General Discussion"...., but why is it in the forum "General Discussion – Anything related to Rotorcraft"?
You really should drive one of the modern all-electrics before passing judgment.C. Beaty;n1140324 said:Some vehicles should be electrified, JC: electric forklifts used in poorly ventilated areas, electric golf carts, electric wheel chairs and of course, Parisian scooters.
However, electric automobiles have become a rat hole for taxpayer money and have made some “entreprenuers” very wealthy.