FlyCom Helmet

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I recently got my new FlyCom Helmet and tried it out Sunday while training with Ben Cadenbach. I had been using a David Clark H20 headset with separate helmet with good results.

Mic audio was horrible on both intercom and Com, to the point that I gave up answering Ben because not only couldn't he hear me but Sidetone was unusable

Any ideas?
 
I recently got my new FlyCom Helmet and tried it out Sunday while training with Ben Cadenbach. I had been using a David Clark H20 headset with separate helmet with good results.

Mic audio was horrible on both intercom and Com, to the point that I gave up answering Ben because not only couldn't he hear me but Sidetone was unusable

Any ideas?
If you are trying to mix and match a GA headset and something like Flycom helmet made for open cockpit aircraft on the same intercom, you will need to be able to set the Mic Gain separately on the intercom for each jack and in most intercoms you cannot do that.
Flycom and MicroAvionics and Lynx and not systems that are meant to mix and match. They either work as a pair or they do not work at all. They are specifically made for open cockpit aircraft and they are very good but forget about using a Flycom with a Bose or David Clark. You will just keep trying.
 
Ok, thanks, was considering that might be the case but not an option on the ATR500. Especially given that the CFI has different equipment with each student. I'll keep training with my David Clark and use the FlyCom in my Aviomania.

Thanks for the response.
 
On my Bensen and then on my Tandem Dominator, I had tried every sort of combination for radio and helmet combination imaginable.
I finally broke down and purchased a set of Flycomm helmets and intercom box and appropriate PPT/radio and Power jacks.
It hurt the lunch budget, but in the end was money very well spent.
Also, as a nice feature, I can for a very little investment, install a set of PPT/radio and Power jacks in my other open cockpit Airplane and only have to migrate the Intercom box when I fly the airplane and use my Flycomm helmets.
I am hearing impaired and wear hearing aids. I can hear just fine with my Flycomm system and not be wearing my hearing aids.
 
I wear hearing aids as well. Problem appears with mic audio level with the FlyCom and any other non FlyCom Helmet audio equipment.
 
For marketing to the young. I do not like looking like a chipmunk or the Pilsbury doe boy with so many layers of clothes.

If I have to look like a chipmunk at least I'd like to try and look like a badA$$ chipmunk.
Tiring to figure out how to attach a Boise blue tooth set headset to this helmet. Can't see this design in my head. I see to use the helmet as the cross-over headband but how to attach it with a spring I do not see yet. Think I need to buy the helmet to fit it.

 
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Go with a throat mic! You could add an Iron Cross decoration!!!!
 
Go with a throat mic! You could add an Iron Cross decoration!!!!
I've never tried a throat mic, but I like the idea if it sounds as good as the Boise mic with a leather sock over it. I could not tell when Greg Grimemger was calling from is Magie or a quiet pilot longe with his Boise Bluetooth and could switch from radio to phone with a click of a button.

I will add iron Crosses on both sides. Brillant!
That is exactly the marketing image I'm looking for in future flying pictures and videos to attack the young and the older Rat Fink generation too.
 
I like Vance's solution of a fire retardent racing suit.
Will have my new FBO company just forming Rotor-Adventures large patch on the back. It's not finished = version 1.
Flying the ARGON First, then the Genesis!!!
the-rat-baronRotorAdventuresRocker.jpg

And this is a front pocket patch.
Logo_PRA31Smaler..jpg
 
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Adding the iron crosses to my helmet is brillant. It will continue the rat fink's iron cross on his ride.
 
I've never tried a throat mic, but I like the idea if it sounds as good as the Boise mic with a leather sock over it.
Last time I saw a throat mic in use, it was while watching 12 O'clock High, and Col. Savage was shouting into one, to be heard over the racket in a B-17 in heavy flak above a German ball bearing factory. My father (a B-17 veteran) told me that the sound quality was awful.

Is there a better modern version?
 
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Probably a Mic Implant with a cord socket off the side of your head?
 
I took the helmet and wiring apart and will rewire around the active mic circuitry. I need the helmet to work in a normal GA environment. I had to order a new variable resistor for the headphone side audio and will try the attached mic element without electronics. If not suitable I've ordered a David Clark Mic element that I'll use.
 
I took the helmet and wiring apart and will rewire around the active mic circuitry. I need the helmet to work in a normal GA environment. I had to order a new variable resistor for the headphone side audio and will try the attached mic element without electronics. If not suitable I've ordered a David Clark Mic element that I'll use.
Bobby let us know the sound quality. I'm interested.
You will be done and flying before I finish polishing my G1Sb, let alone put it together.
Won't need it until I'm flying open cockpit.
Flying the ARGON 1st.
 
I took the helmet and wiring apart and will rewire around the active mic circuitry. I need the helmet to work in a normal GA environment. I had to order a new variable resistor for the headphone side audio and will try the attached mic element without electronics. If not suitable I've ordered a David Clark Mic element that I'll use.
You are onto it.
Flycomm helmets come in 2 flavours - GA and ultralight. (the earphone impedances remain the same)
They differ in that one model comes with a small PCB in the lining that contains an amplifier further increasing the gain of the mic.

And yes mixing and matching helmet is fraught with problems even when you do have independent pilot and Pax adjustments available in your transceiver.

Regards.........Chook.
 
Barnstormers have experimented with throat mics and they work good if you use a full face helmet or in an enclosed machine. Anything else….. when you open your mouth to talk….. the mic actually picks up the wind noise entering your mouth.
Our current project is experimenting with earbud microphones….. so far looks promising….. no wind noise at all with a helmet on and very clear comms.
 
I took the helmet and wiring apart and will rewire around the active mic circuitry. I need the helmet to work in a normal GA environment. I had to order a new variable resistor for the headphone side audio and will try the attached mic element without electronics. If not suitable I've ordered a David Clark Mic element that I'll use.


Why?
 
Because as built it is unusable when I fly with my CFI!
 
You are onto it.
Flycomm helmets come in 2 flavours - GA and ultralight. (the earphone impedances remain the same)
They differ in that one model comes with a small PCB in the lining that contains an amplifier further increasing the gain of the mic.

And yes mixing and matching helmet is fraught with problems even when you do have independent pilot and Pax adjustments available in your transceiver.

Regards.........Chook.
Except the installed amplifier is not doing anything for my Mic audio.
 
Barnstormers have experimented with throat mics and they work good if you use a full face helmet or in an enclosed machine. Anything else….. when you open your mouth to talk….. the mic actually picks up the wind noise entering your mouth.
Our current project is experimenting with earbud microphones….. so far looks promising….. no wind noise at all with a helmet on and very clear comms.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Barry.
What earbuds have you found promising?
That sounds like my anti-chipmunk solution.
Do you have a link?
 
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