Fatal - N419LB Cavalon OK

[Steve_UK]

The FAA ASIAS summary states

Oct-18th 21 - Stroud airport, Oklaholma, USA

 

[Martin W.]

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Cavalon

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[Abid]

N419LM?
I see it as registered to SBS Program Office. It is a Cavalon.
Is that a public use supported by DOJ grant. I think it might be something in the public use arena

Gust of wind blowing a 2 seat gyro into the barbed wires ... doubt it. Not with a competent pilot on controls.

 

[WaspAir]

It would take one heck of a gust and awfully robust barbed wire to "eject" a belted pilot.

 

[Vance]

Rumor has it that it is not the correct N number for the Cavalon involved in the accident.
I don't know how the correction will take place.

 

[Steve_UK]

Condolences to the pilots family and friends.

 

[Abid]

Talking of Oklahoma, I just had the most concerning phone call from someone who has bought a used AR-1 912ULS open cockpit.


I think we will be hearing more out of Oklahoma regarding gyroplane accidents.

 

[Tyger]

Talking of Oklahoma, I just had the most concerning phone call from someone who has bought a used AR-1 912ULS open cockpit.

I think we will be hearing more out of Oklahoma regarding gyroplane accidents.

That's what I'd call darkly cryptic...

 

[Resasi]

That's bad news with regard to AR.

 

[Abid]

That's what I'd call darkly cryptic...

Well really not that cryptic. When you buy an aircraft, don't finish training to learn to fly that class of aircraft, damage its rotors but just want to fix it by patching them up and a few other things ... you are just waiting for it. It puts the experiment in experimental aircraft with unfinished training as a cherry on top

 

[Tyger]

Not cryptic now that you have explained it...

 

[Steve_UK]

Hi Avid. For clarity

 

[Abid]

Hi Avid. For clarity would this be a second Oklahoma accident this week or a correction to the earlier 419LM accident. Thanks.

No 2nd accident yet. I am just saying I think we should get ready. Today his engine would not start. He was lucky. He may not like it but just talking to him and then talking to the CFI who sold him that gyroplane that he owned, I do not believe he should be flying anything. That would be the best thing. Just my personal opinion.

 

[Illini85]

No 2nd accident yet. I am just saying I think we should get ready. Today his engine would not start. He was lucky. He may not like it but just talking to him and then talking to the CFI who sold him that gyroplane that he owned, I do not believe he should be flying anything. That would be the best thing. Just my personal opinion.

Just think how much money he is saving his estate by not buying a Cirrus. Sorry Abid, not the kind of client you need.

How anybody could consider flying after any amount of damage to a rotor without first consulting an expert is insane. Or what I'm hearing here is he did consult an expert and by all indications he is rejecting his advise which is even worse. You know folks, our lives don't just belong only to us.

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[Tyger]

My curiousity is piqued as to just how the rotor got damaged. After the sale, one assumes.

 

[Resasi]

Thats a serious bummer.

An accident that seems waiting to happen, in a product you sell, by a person who seems to be beyond anyone's control.

Not good for the manufacturer, the sport as a whole...or, for the person concerned.

 

[HeliSwede]

That is so sad. Some on this forum may recall an owner of a McCulloch J2 that had a known bad main rotor bearing, was told not to fly, was given a new main rotor bearing which he put the the J2s storage compartment and then took of on a flight...... bearing failed J2 crashed, he died.
Can't fix stupid.

 

[Abid]

My curiousity is piqued as to just how the rotor got damaged. After the sale, one assumes.

Supposedly he hit the blades on hanger doors somehow. I asked for pictures but it seems like he just wanted to buy end caps that broke off. He called asking mainly about why the engine will not start but then just casually asked about buying end caps for the blades. That was a bit concerning to me. Usually you don’t just damage end caps. Hopefully he will get sone knowledgeable person who will look at his machine and talk some sense into him about taking full training.

 

[Tyger]

Regarding the non-starting engine, I'd have thought he'd just talk to a Rotax mechanic before calling the aircraft manufacturer... but maybe the real reason he called you was about fixing the rotor damage.

 

[WaspAir]

A hard-to-start engine is a safety feature if it keeps him from getting airborne.