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Oh WOW! They should try China, Russia, or any Eastern block country for a few weeks see if they would change their "minds" about Socialism. Oh wait they couldn't gather like this because over 25 persons gathering is against the law over there. Well they could maybe do an online conference than! Oh wait there is a restriction on political material on net meeting. Hmmmm well they got to go back to the old printed propaganda then..... ahhhhh paper and printing supplies are monitored by the internal services..... I guess it's hopeless for these young ones. This is what we get from liberal teachers and professors. By communist theorists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, laid out the League's purposes and program naming education being the most important to be taken over in order to dominate. I think we are there. Watching those videos. I don't just think anymore, I am sure we are there. God save us.... They are the ones supposedly will earn our Social Security........ Yeah right!
 
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Oh WOW! They should try China, Russia, or any Easter block country for a few weeks see if they would change their "minds" about Socialism. Oh wait they couldn't gather like this because over 25 persons gathering is against the law over there. Well they could maybe do an online conference than! Oh wait there is a restriction on political material on net meeting. Hmmmm well they got to go back to the old printed propaganda then..... ahhhhh paper and printing supplies are monitored by the internal services..... I guess it's hopeless for these young ones. This is what we get from liberal teachers and professors. By communist theorists Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, laid out the League's purposes and program naming education being the most important to be taken over in order to dominate. I think we are there. Watching those videos. I don't just think anymore, I am sure we are there. God save us.... They are the ones supposedly will earn our Social Security........ Yeah right!



What’s wrong with socialism, we have shown the world that our capitalist system totally corrupt and geared to big corporations and the wealthy. Having lived in China, cops don’t carry guns and old ladies and kids don’t get tassered. Sure, there is not the kind of “liberty” we have in our country, the web is restricted, no porno (those bible bashers would hate this) and while 80% of the population is not interested in politics ,most of the political crap is blocked. The annual grow for 2009 is suspected to be in the order of 8,5% while we have zilch to show for. We have a legal system but for those with funds, corrupt just as the socialist way of life. In China every one lives in a flat, medical is universal except if someone’s wife what bigger tits, it cost money. I could go on and on, but if never lived or tasted the ‘today’ socialist way of life you are talking a lot of nonsense. Lastly … we are surviving and paying for our illegal wars and crimes, excess spending and the rest of the BS that our governments was gave to us the last 20 years … with CHINESE money..!
 

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The woman in the second video summed up their way of thinking perfectly...

If you take it from someone else, it's not stealing it's called socialism.


What a bunch of losers!!:painkiller:
 

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Um, you do know that Socialism & Communism are different things, right?

They are different. Communism is a manner in which wealth is owned; while socialism is a manner in which wealth is distributed.

Socialism is inherent under communism; but adopted by capitalism.

Capitalists adopt socialism; as is done in the EEU, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand; thinking it will divert man's communist leanings. This was a great vision of Hitler and most industrialists of Hitler's time. This is the vision of the liberal left - protecting the international capitalist.

However, socialism is stealing, and a crime against Nature and Nature's God. This is the vision of the right.

There are communist socialists like Sharon Smith in the video; and there are capitalist socialists like George Soros and General Electric and their propaganda machine NBC/MSNBC; joined today against the free man in the Democrat Party of Barak Obama.
 

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Counter Measures

Counter Measures

Lets send in some Capitalists with Money $imbols on their T-Shirts to pass out pamphlets.

Do these Socialists have security at their meetings?

Lets throw in some militant Muslims just to get things started.

:boink::smokin::flame::argue: :wacko:

Thomas :D
 

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The perfect system is not found yet, but I think it would be a mix of socialism and democracy with very defined boundaries.
Some people or groups still need the wip to move on in order.
As people get educated, systems do not fill their needs and have to be modified
Most of the time that change wil come after the guns have spoken.
Without the money, the American system is no longer atractive and the changes will come.
I hope in a more peacefull way, you guys already had enough shakings.
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Oh, barf!

Oh, barf!

The perfect system is not found yet, but I think it would be a mix of socialism and democracy with very defined boundaries.
Some people or groups still need the wip to move on in order.
As people get educated, systems do not fill their needs and have to be modified
Most of the time that change wil come after the guns have spoken.
Without the money, the American system is no longer atractive and the changes will come.
I hope in a more peacefull way, you guys already had enough shakings.
Heron

There is no perfect system Heron, and never will be as long as a human being has anything to do with it; so the alternative is the least evil system, and the least evil is the least government the American Forefathers founded, but which is now being overwhelmed by village idiots seeking nirvana through entitlement.
 

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There is no perfect system Heron, and never will be as long as a human being has anything to do with it; so the alternative is the least evil system, and the least evil is the least government the American Forefathers founded, but which is now being overwhelmed by village idiots seeking nirvana through entitlement.

You have stated it very well Terry. I agree.
 

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Gee, Fritz!

Gee, Fritz!

What’s wrong with socialism, we have shown the world that our capitalist system totally corrupt and geared to big corporations and the wealthy. Having lived in China, cops don’t carry guns and old ladies and kids don’t get tassered. Sure, there is not the kind of “liberty” we have in our country, the web is restricted, no porno (those bible bashers would hate this) and while 80% of the population is not interested in politics ,most of the political crap is blocked. The annual grow for 2009 is suspected to be in the order of 8,5% while we have zilch to show for. We have a legal system but for those with funds, corrupt just as the socialist way of life. In China every one lives in a flat, medical is universal except if someone’s wife what bigger tits, it cost money. I could go on and on, but if never lived or tasted the ‘today’ socialist way of life you are talking a lot of nonsense. Lastly … we are surviving and paying for our illegal wars and crimes, excess spending and the rest of the BS that our governments was gave to us the last 20 years … with CHINESE money..!

I think you are really onto something there. Perhaps a general fund to provide resettlement for those who love China and would like to repatriate. I'd contribute heavily to that fund. I would even agree to be taxed for it. We could move whole families. I am sure they have enough concrete flats for everyone. You could write us from there and tell us all about your gyroplane fun and healthy life. You might even be able to keep your forum membership. Well, maybe not.

What do you think? Wouldn't it be much kinder to simply move to where you can be taken care of and enjoy life rather than suck everyone around you into the nursery kicking and screaming.

I am sure the Chinese are wasting no money on the War on Terror, and I understand they're building new WalMarts there every day. Think of all that American money you'd have in the booming economy of China.
 

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I think you are really onto something there. Perhaps a general fund to provide resettlement for those who love China and would like to repatriate. I'd contribute heavily to that fund. I would even agree to be taxed for it. We could move whole families. I am sure they have enough concrete flats for everyone. You could write us from there and tell us all about your gyroplane fun and healthy life. You might even be able to keep your forum membership. Well, maybe not.

What do you think? Wouldn't it be much kinder to simply move to where you can be taken care of and enjoy life rather than suck everyone around you into the nursery kicking and screaming.

I am sure the Chinese are wasting no money on the War on Terror, and I understand they're building new WalMarts there every day. Think of all that American money you'd have in the booming economy of China.



That’s for sure, no money wasted on the terror our government is spreading around the world, 16 billions USD a day just for Iraq alone! Imagine how many concert flats we could build to house those folks that lost their home in our country. No Wal-Mart’s stores either, they are already in our country selling 99.9% Chinese’s manufactured goods. Are you kidding?, there is no American money in the Chinese’s booming economy, we owe money to them! If we are not careful in the next years China might be in a better position to dictate us how we should spend our Dollar. Only we believe in our supremacy, others see it differently.
 

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That’s for sure, no money wasted on the terror our government is spreading around the world, 16 billions USD a day just for Iraq alone! Imagine how many concert flats we could build to house those folks that lost their home in our country. No Wal-Mart’s stores either, they are already in our country selling 99.9% Chinese’s manufactured goods. Are you kidding?, there is no American money in the Chinese’s booming economy, we owe money to them! If we are not careful in the next years China might be in a better position to dictate us how we should spend our Dollar. Only we believe in our supremacy, others see it differently.

How much will you need to get there Fritz? Iraq cost $2B a week averaged over its six years while socialist give-aways in America average $92B a week and is climbing into oblivion. This is our debt to China Fritz. Socialism has this nation on the fritz, unable to pay its bills because it taxes production to give wealth away. China has taken our money spent with them and invested it back in America because they have more than they know what to do with. They survive on our business. While we owe China $1Trillion, rather than pay it with productivity, the socialists want to add another $1Trillion to our debt liability after just having given away nearly $1Trillion to the financial industry to fix the damage caused by other socialist give-aways. Actually, Health care will cost far more than the $1Trillion over ten years they are soft pedaling it with; it will cost that much every year before long while medicare and Social Security costs are projected to triple or quadruple in the next decade.

And here is why, Fritz; they want to merge the planet into one World; binding communism, capitalism, and socialist endeavors into a meritocracy in which no one succeeds outside the box; and this for the leisure of those who would rule over us from their safe governing positions.

No, Fritz, America's staring at her navel and has determined that we owe each other our lives when nothing could be further from the truth. Socialism is theft. Taxing one man to pay another man for his existence is theft, and every working person in America currently loses 40% of everything they produce to socialist programs.
 
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What’s wrong with socialism......
Sir your ignorance shouldn't even deserve answer. Let's put it this way. Everything is wrong with socialism. I know it first hand. I grew up in it. Sons and daughters report parents to government (because of fear) who are thinking differently. Neighbors report neighbors to the (toll free number no questions asked and no proof needed) taxation bureau about additions to houses or backyards. Teachers report students to internal secret services in case of students questioning or opposing the curriculum purposely falsely written. Twisted in a way whereof everything has a left slant to it. History was falsely written and the ideology was forced up on us. And you ask what is wrong with it? Have you ever gotten home from school and you had the secret service sitting in your house with your parents gathered at the kitchen table trying to prove them that they were good communists and their child is only a fifth grader and can't mean much harm? Have you? Have you ever gotten the crap beaten out of you because you wanted to go see a movie with your friends and there happened to be more than 25 of you? Has the police ever shot you point blank close range with rubber bullets on a national holiday because you were 6 feet and over 230 lbs and they felt you were a threat? Or have the police shoot at you with tear gas canisters aiming for your head and laughing at the ones they had managed to hit knowing there is absolutely nothing that can happen to them? What's wrong with socialism? Show me one country where it has managed to survive!!! One! Just one! And let's compare the living conditions and the taxes they pay. Go right ahead name one friggin country. Ok I just blew a gasket I'd better get off this thing this is too personal for me............
God help us!:rant:
ps: white house is asking people report so called "fishy" anti health care reform E-mails and blogs to: [email protected] ...........whatchacallthis?????
 
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Um, you do know that Socialism & Communism are different things, right?

If this question was for me than the answer is hell yes.
Communism is the most twisted, brutal, anti individual, anti success, anti achievement ideology ever created and forced upon people after the 19th century.(Yeah purposely said after the 19th century, Islam takes the lead in primitiveness hands down). Socialism is the delivery vehicle for it. I think I had summed it up for yah.:flame:
 

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Well, I don't disagree with your take on Communism, and Socialism CAN lead to it. I don't much care for either. My question was more engendered by what looked like your use of the lack of freedoms in Eastern Block nations as examples of a reason to avoid Socialism. Those countries are, or at least were, Communist, not Socialist. France & Italy, for instance, are Socialist, or at least largely so, and while I don't prefer Socialism, I will say that those countries are not the Police States that the Eastern Block countries are, or were.
 

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You guys are talking about the excesses of both systems. There are problems with capitalism also, but mostly it worked pretty well, this system was the one with most advancements.
Poor side of town claims the rich are tirants that spend money in things like museums, concerts, music mostly cultural advancements. The poor want food on the table and maybe a job, any job.
That is socialism, the poor sharing things they did not create or provided.
Comunism is socialism stratified, groups of interest defending their turf using all kinds of violence when they atain the power to do so.
All systems are made out of people like you and me . . .just givem them a reason or an ideal and they will turn the way you want them to . . .
If you have or gained something than you are prone to keep the system that is providing the goods to you. Otherwise you will have to claim your stake and then you will be labeled an insurgent.
Choppergabor is not considering the dicotomy in USA, the people (Yes Sir We the . . .) and those who own that nation and dictate what you do or dont.
It does not matter how good you are, the things you do will say who your are as a nation or group of interest.
So far it has been all down hill . . .Internet is here to uncover the veil and show who you are.
Heron
 

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Gabor my friend once again you have taken the words right out of my mouth!:first:

fritz there is a book you should read The 5000 Year Leap!
It's not capitalism that corrupts it's government regulation on business that corrupts and makes an uneven field for small business


Heron there is a perfect form of government it's call Natural law or God's Law
you might want to read The 5000 Year Leap also! :peace:
 

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We already have it....

We already have it....

President wants to socialize medicine, has nationalized parts of the auto and banking industry....

For 37 years I worked 6-7 days a week while a bunch of lazy nae do wells got to live for free off the money they took from me So I worked yet more overtime to get ahead, so the Democrats could increase taxes to take yet more of what I made and give it to those that do not want to work for a living and think it is beneath their dignity to do so......

Any society that rewards people for doing nothing will self destruct eventually, work hard for what you want, let the people keep it, that and than alone inspires them to want and work for more...

Let those that do not want to work stay home and go hungry, let them live the dark and get as cold as I did on those days I went to work outside in the sub freezing weather, but as long as you feed them, give them free medical, and a free place to live they have no reason to get out and better them self and become a contributor to society instead of a drain...

Send the illegals home there is a heap of jobs out there just begging for a body, sometimes you have to swallow your pride and go take a low paying grunt work, dirty job first, use it to get some skill set, then use that to better yourself. I did and so did a bunch of you....

Make the morons that did that video get as active at getting a job and contrubuting to society and not just thinking they can make a free ride for themself...

Am I cruel no just practical, we take care of our elderly and handicapped, they at least have an excuse and most of the elderly worked hard nasty dirty jobs with our any benefits, the handicapped want to work and get out, and they deserve any assistance they get, but you you are healthy, there is no good reason you can not and should not support yourself...
 
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