Commercial Gyro Hour Requirement

Gucci Pilot

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I keep hearing people tell me that the minimum required hours for the Commercial Gyro Add-On is 25 hours. Yet when I look at the regs, it looks like it is actually 30. Am I missing something?


For a gyroplane rating. A person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with a rotorcraft category and gyroplane class rating must log at least 150 hours of flight time as a pilot (of which 5 hours may have been accomplished in a full flight simulator or flight training device that is representative of a gyroplane) that consists of at least:
(1) 100 hours in powered aircraft, of which 25 hours must be in gyroplanes.
(2) 100 hours of pilot-in-command flight time, which includes at least—
(i) 10 hours in gyroplanes; and
(ii) 3 hours in cross-country flight in gyroplanes.
(3) 20 hours of training on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(4) of this part that includes at least—
(i) 2.5 hours on the control and maneuvering of a gyroplane solely by reference to instruments using a view-limiting device including attitude instrument flying, partial panel skills, recovery from unusual flight attitudes, and intercepting and tracking navigational systems. This aeronautical experience may be performed in an aircraft, full flight simulator, flight training device, or an aviation training device;
(ii) One 2-hour cross country flight in a gyroplane in daytime conditions that consists of a total straight-line distance of more than 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure;
(iii) Two hours of flight training during nighttime conditions in a gyroplane at an airport, that includes 10 takeoffs and 10 landings to a full stop (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern); and
(iv) Three hours in a gyroplane with an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the preceding 2 calendar months from the month of the test.
(4) Ten hours of solo flight time in a gyroplane or 10 hours of flight time performing the duties of pilot in command in a gyroplane with an authorized instructor on board (either of which may be credited towards the flight time requirement under paragraph (d)(2) of this section), on the areas of operation listed in §61.127(b)(4) that includes—
(i) One cross-country flight with landings at a minimum of three points, with one segment consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 50 nautical miles from the original point of departure; and
(ii) 5 hours in night VFR conditions with 10 takeoffs and 10 landings (with each landing involving a flight in the traffic pattern).
 

Tyger

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Can one be PIC during part of the training? If so, some of the 10+20 could be concurrent.
 

Vance

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In my opinion you are reading it correctly Blake.

Congratulations on your thoughtful approach.

Because Commercial Rotorcraft-Gyroplane is not a common rating as a flight instructor when I get this request I contact the designated pilot examiner I will use and work with him and his interpretation of the regulation.

There are several parts of this regulation that are open to interpretation.

Maneuvering a gyroplane solely by reference to instruments with a view limiting device is a good example.

The rule has not changed since I earned my commercial gyroplane rating and yet I have recently been told by my favorite designated pilot examiner that the view limiting device time needs to be in a gyroplane.

I did my view limiting device time in a Cessna 172 and I know other commercial gyroplane pilots that simply used their fixed wing instrument rating.
 
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