Carolina Barnstormers Fall Fly-in?
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MikeBoyette
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One of these days I’m going to attend. Looks like the most fun event of the calendar
Capt'n Gator
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Without a doubt it is Mike and I would like to see your Dominator flying next to mine.
MikeBoyette
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Well sir it is no longer mine. Chris Bucannon (sp) actually owns it now and I think it’s a full time barnstormer.
N962GT
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From what I understand WRENS is not happening. Huge bummer. I've heard rumblings over the past 12 months that there was to be just one Barnstormers event this year, and we already had it. Jury is still out, so keep your fingers crossed and be nice to Barry K and the folks who host tese events at KAFP. Weather at the spring ding sucked donkeys, I'd surely like to fly up for a fall event, most especially since Wrens is apparently a bust. Been thinking about flying the 200 miles up and back, just because, some Saturday, but haven't gotten around to it. Might have done it yesterday but our EAA 242 Young Eagles conflicted.
If we Carolina boys can pull a fall event out of the hat, I will be bringing a portable Garmin Etrex and laptop with associated software so we can run a safe, and accurate, climb competition. The new Rotax turbos are, at long last, a real multi-seat gyro challenge to the Yamaha "Gunslinger" f.k.a. Wicked after 10 years of total dominance for sustained climb from zero AS, 0 - 1000' AGL. There have been no real challengers to the 570# 140HP Air Command tandem until now. I've had guys challenge me to top speed drag races, but my gyro is not built for speed, it was built for climb and I don't enter into speed races. Fastest I've had it is only 95mph, certainly no point in getting into a speed race with the far smoother and slippery eurotubs and enclosed jobs.
But climb? All the claims I've read on RWF or heard on the ground since 2013 have been a joke, either zoom climbs that can't be sustained once AS bleeds off, just plain BS, or at best instantenous read-outs for a second or two at a time, panel instruments which are terribly inaccurate in any case when it comes to climb rates, digital or analogue. The only way to get an accurate determination is with a GPS data dump, analyzed and averaged for a complete 1000' climb. We were planning on a friendly competition between the Gunslinger and the new Blue ELA Eclipse that flew down from Ohio this last Spring, but weather was a mess and a 200 mile round-trip cross country was questionable for me that day and I didn't feel comfortable leaving until late in the day, much too late to run the climb race.
I'm tuning and tweaking to prepare for the new generation Rotax turbos. Swapped out my carb rack for a new set, and hoping my Ukraine NR Prop will arrive in time for the climb race, eh? I have a new 3:1 AK7 gearbox that just arrived from Minsk on hand, but will need to make changes to the empennage to accommodate the longer prop spacing. If I don't get it finished I'll run the 2:72 Arrow I've been flying since the rebuild 2019. I de-pitched the Warp prop from 8.5° to 7.5° last month, which gained about 150 FPM climb and lost about 7-10 MPH S&L cruise.
Looking forward to flying up to AFP soon, no matter what gets decided for an official fly-in.
Barry T: OK, Let's strap the GPS to your leg and see how that monster single-place compares! I know you've been itching to climb race me for a while now, even though two very different categories of gyros. I think it will be fun! And you might turn out to be right about a fair trade-off when it comes to power and weight.
If we Carolina boys can pull a fall event out of the hat, I will be bringing a portable Garmin Etrex and laptop with associated software so we can run a safe, and accurate, climb competition. The new Rotax turbos are, at long last, a real multi-seat gyro challenge to the Yamaha "Gunslinger" f.k.a. Wicked after 10 years of total dominance for sustained climb from zero AS, 0 - 1000' AGL. There have been no real challengers to the 570# 140HP Air Command tandem until now. I've had guys challenge me to top speed drag races, but my gyro is not built for speed, it was built for climb and I don't enter into speed races. Fastest I've had it is only 95mph, certainly no point in getting into a speed race with the far smoother and slippery eurotubs and enclosed jobs.
But climb? All the claims I've read on RWF or heard on the ground since 2013 have been a joke, either zoom climbs that can't be sustained once AS bleeds off, just plain BS, or at best instantenous read-outs for a second or two at a time, panel instruments which are terribly inaccurate in any case when it comes to climb rates, digital or analogue. The only way to get an accurate determination is with a GPS data dump, analyzed and averaged for a complete 1000' climb. We were planning on a friendly competition between the Gunslinger and the new Blue ELA Eclipse that flew down from Ohio this last Spring, but weather was a mess and a 200 mile round-trip cross country was questionable for me that day and I didn't feel comfortable leaving until late in the day, much too late to run the climb race.
I'm tuning and tweaking to prepare for the new generation Rotax turbos. Swapped out my carb rack for a new set, and hoping my Ukraine NR Prop will arrive in time for the climb race, eh? I have a new 3:1 AK7 gearbox that just arrived from Minsk on hand, but will need to make changes to the empennage to accommodate the longer prop spacing. If I don't get it finished I'll run the 2:72 Arrow I've been flying since the rebuild 2019. I de-pitched the Warp prop from 8.5° to 7.5° last month, which gained about 150 FPM climb and lost about 7-10 MPH S&L cruise.
Looking forward to flying up to AFP soon, no matter what gets decided for an official fly-in.
Barry T: OK, Let's strap the GPS to your leg and see how that monster single-place compares! I know you've been itching to climb race me for a while now, even though two very different categories of gyros. I think it will be fun! And you might turn out to be right about a fair trade-off when it comes to power and weight.
