Buying a used gyro from Europe?

[RogerB]

How would you go about buying a used gyro from Europe and then being able to fly it in the U.S. the same way and with the same type of insurance you would get if you had bought it in the U.S. to begin with. For example a used Autogyro or a Magni

 

[RogerB]

No one knows?

 

[MikeBoyette]

No one knows?

In my opinion it seems to be prohibitive. I’m sure just the shipping would be expensive plus any import fees and taxes. Why not just buy a second hand Magni that’s already here. I’m sure Greg Grimminger would know of one or two available that are in good shape.

 

[WaspAir]

You might have to jump through some FAA hoops to show it qualifies for registration here as Experimental.

 

[Abid]

Experimental Exhibition would be the only category you could practically use for it

 

[rsalazar]

I imported to the USA several new, used, and kits aircraft. As well as engines, wings, tails, rotors, frames, gyroplane and airplane bodies.


Bringing a used gyroplane from Europe to the U.S, it can only be register as Experimental Exhibition.


You need to make sure that the seller create a sale invoice. The invoice as well as the logbooks need to be notarized with a photo of the hobbs time and they match on the logbook. You also need to make sure that the seller will do the paperwork for export from the country in Europe so you do not get charge VAT. This will help you with the DAR and the FAA.


In addition you need to know

Who is responsible for arranging ocean transportation from the country in Europe to the US Port?
Does the receiving facility has a dock to offload container when it arrives at destination?
Responsible party for the invoice?
When shipment will be ready?
Who will be responsible for supplying ISF details and commercial docs for Customs processing?


Depending on the country from Europe that shipment cost will vary. For example from Italy is between $5500 to $6500, from Spain $4700 to $6000, from Poland $6000 to $7800, from Germany $5000 to $7000. Be aware of the shipping companies and the all the ports they are using. All the shipping cost have increased, they were worse during COVID. A 20 foot container from Italy was $10000 during COVID.

Then you need to have a Import broker to get the Aircraft out of the port. There are several companies in the USA that can act as a broker.


Some of the cost are:


Entry fee 125.00
Messenger fee 35.00
ISF filing fee 45.00
ISF SEB(single entry bond fee) 75.00
Customs entry bond fee is 5.50 per 1000.00 invoice value plus duties and taxes minimum of 65.00
DTHC (destination terminal handling Charges) 575.00 per 20' container
Inland carriage fees from railhead to final mile will be determined upon actual booking of container, will provide that, when they have all details.

Note: Do not play games with customs either out the country from Europe or in the USA. If you do, it can cost you thousands of dollars or euros, and you could lose your aircraft

You can ship the container from the port in the USA to your place, or after the broker get the container out of the custom and port, you can get it at the port with your trailer. Either way you have 2 hours to take the aircraft out of the container. If you take more that 2 hours they will charge you per hour, and it is going to cost you.


What you need from the shipper/seller


1. What steamship line or would you be using to book this container or is the US IOR (importer of record) responsible for ocean transportation?
2. Routing from country to the USA port.
3. Readiness of freight.

Everything should work well if you follow the rules and the paperwork

I maybe forgot some other steps, but this is the basics

 

[Abid]

Experimental Exhibition would be the only category you could practically use for registering it. You’d need to get a door to door service with a customs brokerage because you aren’t setup like a company or other resources. Get a quote door to door. Get a proper seller invoice