Bad news,for me

GyroRon

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Bud, you didn't get hurt? How messed up is the gyro?? Maybe you can sell the engine and redrive and salvage some parts and get a 503 powered Gyrobee. A little gyrobee with a simple 503 rotax engine should be cheap and trouble free, plus the extra wide landing gear might end up being a bonus if you have another mishap. Glad your ok
 

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I was at La Belle when you had a problem with some wiring getting loose and landed short. Sorry for your damages but glad you are not hurt.
The time between flights may have something to do with responses or maybe the experience acumulated made you more relaxed and misjudge the moment.
Getting back at basketball officiating made my reflexes come back and the new kids always ask me about it . . .but the eye sight is not the best with age.
Trade offs . . .
Get back in the air as soon as you can . . .
Heron
 

BUD ONEAL

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Scott,
Some parts are good. The engine is still good, the tires and wheels ect. Thanks for your offer.


Ron,
No I was not hurt,Just a skinned shin and that happened when I went to get out of the mess.
I guess that the worse thing is that that Dominator has been a part of me for the last 19 years, hard to see it gone.The engine is a 100 hp subaru that has been bored to 10 thousands over,new pistons, rings main and rod bearings. Has a "Jake" manifold with heated carb.I have a "sub 4" two /one redrive on it also. After all the probrems that I had with the other engine to get this one running so good and then this happend.Well that is life!

Heron,
Thanks, I remember that event at LaBell also.Much the same except I did catch that one before it became a major probrem and got back with out breaking anything.And yes I believe that the lost time had a lot to do with this. Practice makes perfect and I did not have the practice.
 

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Bud,

I don't know what you're talking about. Downwind? Engine out? The wind was really nasty Monday. Gusty, and if calmed down to 10, it was only for an instant. I'd call it a good save. Besides, wisdom always wins over speed. I'm pretty sure Lewis Gulley might have something to say about flying "at your age." He's been all over the sky of late.

Sorry about the machine, though. Bummer that. I'm very glad you are OK. That, sir, is the true measure of skill and ability.
 

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Maybe a Bud-O-Nator will rise from the cript! :D
Some active suspension to save from future high landings.
I miss the action in Florida . . .nothing going on here.
Heron
 

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Bud I am so sorry to hear about your trouble. I think you should keep flying if its still in your heart. As I have aged I have noticed a few changes in my reflexes, speed and agility however that is not a reason to stop flying or anything else. It is a reason to adapt to your new capabilities. When I drive, I no longer speed. In traffic I keep a longer following distance. I try not to use the phone of if I do try not to get into involved discussions. I think the result is every bit as safe a driver as I was when I was young.

I do think that getting a few flights with a good instructor could have helped you shake off some of the dust and sure cant be a bad thing. Hope to see you in the air soon.
 

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Bad news, for me? Nope - for all of us!

Bad news, for me? Nope - for all of us!

Bud,
Just saw your post and my heart jumped! So glad to hear you're OK.
I'm sure you have gone over everything that happened a thousand times.
Who knows more than you what your comfort level is with re-building your machine and your confidence.
I kind of like what Ron said. A bullet-proof 503 on a good airframe provides the simplicity and reliability that those of us old farts might find more comfortable to manage and still stay in the air.
You've really got me thinking about reaction-time though. I'd say you are definitely a young 71. So, why not re-build as an investment, if nothing else. And when you're finished, see how you feel with the prospect of flying some more.
Once again, we're all very happy that you didn't hurt yourself.
And whatever you decide to do, I'm sure it will be the right decision.
We love ya, Man!
Trez
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Hi Bud, this sucks!!

I've read many accounts of young men even with high time doing the same thing, seems it happens to every age group.

My brother is rebuilding the nose gear for 210. This 12,000 hour pilot who has never had an accident before just got way behind the power curve and stalled it in collapsing the nose gear worst than any he's seen.
Two years ago it was a high time pilot of a 310 who dropped her in so hard he bent the wings.

Both of these guys are considered good pilots yet they really had a bad day and one very preventable crash/landing.

The suggestion that you modify your flying like driving slower and leaving more space between cars could be applied in this case.

Hold her on the deck on takeoffs longer gaining higher airspeed and maintaining a higher airspeed than you use to when younger. Basically never fly slower than landing speed anymore?
 

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Bud, I'm terribly sorry about your mishap. I'm glad your OK. I do hope you rebuild. But considering your 71, I would try to just buy one already flying. To make sure I enjoy my flying time. And to get back on the horse as they say. It sounds as though you were behind the curve and you could keep from getting hurt. I think you done a good job.
 

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Bud, you and I have had are political disagreements, but I sure as hell feel bad about your loss, and I'm especially glad you were not hurt. Like I told Vance in another thread, chin up-there's always tomorrow!
 

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Bud

We may not agree on some things but I am hoping we agree on this.... you made a good emergency landing. YOU walked away! 71 aint old... get busy and get back in the air. Everyone here agrees you are a part of this dysfunctional family.

Many will try to analyze what might have gone wrong.... its all there in what you described.... but when it happens and there are seconds to do everything perfectly... who can judge.

Most important... you are ok.... and I am glad.

Mr F
 

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Bud, I agree with what Vance said in post #2. I certainly hope so because I might be almost that old when I get my license.

I would feel reel bad if you stopped flying.

 

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Jay bird/fiveboy,
Yes we have had disagreements but that is politics not real life.Thank both of you for the kind words and support.
 

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"We ought to survive." That is saying we should do something which comes spontaneously. "Trying to survive is truly futile, because in the end you won't succeed." Alan Watts

Do not think about it. Just do whatever comes naturally.
 

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So sorry to here about your dom. Glad to here you are alright. I only have about a 100 hours ,but at 100 ft in a turn with no power , I think that would be a tough one for most pilots. I have a spare set of rudder peddles if you need them.

P.S. Slap that horse in the ass and get back on!
 

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Bud,

You have an awful lot of history within this sport and you area a special person to alot of us. Obviously the decision is yours and all of us will repect that decision. But at the risk of being redundant, if you do decide to rebuild, please post a list of what you will need as many of us would like to help.

Real glad you're alright.
 

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Bud,
Just saw your post and my heart jumped! So glad to hear you're OK.
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The same goes for me, wow, especially after the terrible news of "Mad man Mike". I think it's a good lesson for all of to check things twice, and replace 10 year old plus hardware. I guess the new crap can quit just as easy though. Sure are glad you're okay Bud.
 

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Bud, Sorry to hear the bad news. So glad that you were not hurt! If you choose to rebuild im sure there will be plenty of support. The Gyro community would never be the same without you in it my friend!
 
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