Avian 2-180

Jean Claude

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Très belles photos, Juergen.
Merci
 

Jean Claude

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Yes, Juergen.
This is to remind the work of Denis Papin on steam, I decorated this aircraft built in the school that bears his name.



Mignet HM380 modified: Rotax 503, two seat
 
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What a nice pattern, Jean-Claude. It reminds me a bit of the yin yang motif, really cute!
Turning a Mignet into a side by side is not a small modification, who did that part?
 

Jean Claude

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HM 380 is a two seat designed by Henri MIGNET to receive a 65 HP CONTINENTAL engine.
Only I adapted to the French administrative category "ultralight":
Lighter engine, lighter airframe, wings lighter, larger rear wing, displaced wheels.
Take off very easy (200 ft) to two mean passengers (350 lbs). Heavier passengers do not have enough room for their buttocks!
 
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Love the 2-180

Love the 2-180

I've always thought the Avian 2-180 was a great looking ship. Would have loved to own or flown one. My understanding is that the machine was plagued by mechanical issues with the rotor head, specifically that the rotor head would get too hot during prerotation. Has anyone got any time in one of these?

I thought the only remaining one is in an airport in California somewhere.

I wonder what it would take to get it airworthy again..?
 

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http://www.pegasusrotorcraft.com/index.html

I think i've talked to Mr. Reinhard in the past, not sure what status the company is in now, but most of his paperwork and certifications go back to 1990... I would imagine the company/project is not viable any longer. If that's the case it would be a real shame...
 

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It sure is a great looking Gyro! I haven't heard anything about how well it flew or details on is specs, but if it could be resurrected, I suspect there would be a market for an enclosed Gyro with Jump capability (and enough payload capacity to be practically used .
 

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I see a belt drive at the rotor head. Not sure why that would get hot, but the engine might being air cooled and pushing power to the head just guessing. All the film I've seem looked like it was a good flying gyro.
 

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I've always thought the Avian 2-180 was a great looking ship. My understanding is that the machine was plagued by mechanical issues with the rotor head, specifically that the rotor head would get too hot during prerotation.
Several years ago I ran across an article written by someone who detailed their work on the Avion (as well as the BD-5) dealing with torsional issues, the prerotator problem is discussed. That document is still on the net and is a good read for many reasons.


PROPELLER DRIVE SYSTEMS AND TORSIONAL VIBRATION

http://bugatti100p.com/web_documents/torsionalvibration.pdf

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http://www.pegasusrotorcraft.com/index.html

I think i've talked to Mr. Reinhard in the past, not sure what status the company is in now, but most of his paperwork and certifications go back to 1990... I would imagine the company/project is not viable any longer. If that's the case it would be a real shame...
It's my understanding that Joe has one airframe and all the type certificate rights, but does not have any tooling. That makes starting up production a bigger task than it might be otherwise.

I have always enjoyed watching it (on film) do collective flares when landing, and would love to have one in airworthy condition.
 

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In March, 1991 the Toronto Rotorcraft Club had a 2 hour presentation by George Hunt and the Avian design team. A number of design details were discussed in quite some detail, e.g., the 1250 lbs. of thrust from the ducted propeller and the tip weights of the rotor blades. Some photos and movies were shown, and all of this was recorded on VHS tape. I finally got it converted and burned to DVD. Copies anyone?
 

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PM sent wth shipping address. Thanks for sharing with the rest of us in the autogyro world, Jerry!
 

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Hi all, thanks for your interest. With the number of requests I think it best to post the seminar video on You-Tube. But I'm just in the process of changing servers so when that's done I'll send out the link. I also need to get the Boss-man's legal OK.

IN THE MEANTIME here are links to videos showing its jump takeoff and collective pitch control landing capabilities. It even has enough energy stored in its rotor to abort a slow forward speed landing and climb out, as you shall see:

http://youtu.be/0AQOC7dJjE4
http://youtu.be/7qlscnbdXpA
http://youtu.be/ecBzm0sfwBA
http://youtu.be/2x0HpM8H7xE

CF-JTO-X was the sixth and final prototype and was used for the flight tests for certification (and I guess is now at Pegasus).
 
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