anybody building or flying Dominator Ultra White?

mxaexm

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Hey guys,

I haven't flow a gyro yet (I've been flying airplanes for a few years now). Once again idea of flying gyros is on my mind.
I'm 25 years old and about to finish my airplane CFI/CFII and MEI so I won't be able to start my training or build any time soon but I'm trying to get as much info as possible regarding flying gyros.

So far my favorite is Dominator Ultra white (I guess I like the "simplicity" of it).

Any pictures ideas regarding building and flying Dominator Ultrawhite?
 

Edypaul

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Ive been flying mine for 3 years and I love it. Its a great Flying Machine. In my opinion its one of the safest Gyros out there. Its a well built machine with a great safety record. We fly off a grass strip and do a fair amount of off field landings. It does very well on rough surfaces. Some say the gear is too long but you need that to get centerline thrust and good suspension travel. I wouldn't have it any other way.
 

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Its a great machine. Ive been flying mine for almost two years and love it.
 

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I am. Paddy has moved up to a 582 and Ed is getting a 582 ready as we speak..he should be working but ..
 

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If you are under 200lbs suited up you will get good performance from the 503.
The 582 gives great performance, the gyro has proven itself to be very reliable. Its a gem, and I cant see myself ever selling it.
 

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Joe, How did you know I was screwing off at work??
 

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Buy the way. Who's running your office wile you are pecking on the computer??
 

mxaexm

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I'm 205lbs and trying to lose weight down to 190 (we will see about that) so 503 could be not strong enough, is that what you are saying?

How about rotor blades?
 

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I'm 205lbs and trying to lose weight down to 190 (we will see about that) so 503 could be not strong enough, is that what you are saying?

How about rotor blades?

I weigh about 220 and fly at sea level. 503 is enough but just enough. If you get to 190 the 503 will be fine..but since you are just as likely to end up eventually at 225 you wont regret the 582. Yes you will definitely need rotor blades.
 

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Me too, I wouldn't fly without them.
 

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Well, Paddy, you won't fly LONG without them at any rate.

I've flown a few 503 Ultra-whites and a 1-place full-dress 582 Dominator. I owned a 2-place full-dress Dom. with a 912S. All had adequate power (I weigh 175), though the bigger engines are an extra fun kick in the pants.

If I were in the market for another 1-place "production" gyro today, I'd buy a 503 Ultrawhite.
 

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If you could fit a 72 inch prop on to a bare bones 503 Ultrawhite, I wonder how it would perform?
 

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Paddy,
Dad's first Dominator built in 1989 was just that. It was 72 in prop and could get off in less than 30' in calm wind. He never put it in production because everyone complained the seat was too high. I will post a picture of it tomorrow if I can.
 

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I'm 205lbs and trying to lose weight down to 190 (we will see about that) so 503 could be not strong enough, is that what you are saying?

How about rotor blades?

I weigh 215. I have a 503 with 23 ft. dragonwings. I think the power is adequate. I have been in a couple of situations were a 582 would have been nice, but all in all, still very maneuverable and fun to fly. If money is the issue, i would recommend the 503. If money is not the issue, 582. I haven't flown a 582 , but i am sure it is an xtra kick in the pants. I have flown with some rotorhawk blades where I had to be real careful with low altitude maneuvers , so as to be able to stay airborn. For one , the rotorhawks weighed about 69 lbs. compared to the dragonwings 38 lbs.
 

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Its better to have the extra power available, than sitting on the edge of your power, holding your breath and gritting your teeth, wishing you could power out of the problem. Besides, it might be more economical since with the extra power you might be able to fly at a lower rpm.
 

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I understand the Rotax 503 is on the way out and the cost of Rotax has gone way up, so what are some other engine options for an Ultra White? Subaru, AeroVee, O-200, Cont. A-65? Right now I'm 230 pounds and I'm trying to get down to 200, but we all know how difficult that can be. Besides, more power also means you can carry more fuel, right?
 
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