raton
Newbie
Wouldn't adding a heavy Subaru to a Magni make it fly like a lead sled?
Not all quite contrary, it relay flays like a charm, maybe after seeing the video you might want to go Subaru too…
http://www.autogiro.be
raton
Wouldn't adding a heavy Subaru to a Magni make it fly like a lead sled?
Not all quite contrary, it relay flays like a charm, maybe after seeing the video you might want to go Subaru too…
http://www.autogiro.be
raton
Raton, how in the hell would you know if it flys like a charm? I haven't been paying you a whole lot of attention, but after all the fighting with your Aussie Mates, I have kept a better eye on your posts, and I am finding that in many cases you clearly have no experience in what your talking about.
Just be clear and honest, what is your purpose here on the forum? Do you want to sell Subaru engine packages? Are you just a Subaru fan? Or what???
Ron, I have been wondering who these Raton guys are.
In some post's, his grammar and translation are almost unintelligible, like me talking to a Frenchman.
In others, he is clear and concise, and non-combative.
It reminds me of Steve Mc, his post's are either redneck slang, or professor perfect.
I wish Raton were clear and honest with what they are trying to achieve.
Raton, how in the hell would you know if it flys like a charm? I haven't been paying you a whole lot of attention, but after all the fighting with your Aussie Mates, I have kept a better eye on your posts, and I am finding that in many cases you clearly have no experience in what your talking about.
Just be clear and honest, what is your purpose here on the forum? Do you want to sell Subaru engine packages? Are you just a Subaru fan? Or what???
People here already like Subaru engines. They are already very popular for conversion. Gyros like the RAF, Sparrowhawk, came standard with Subaru engines. And the Subarus were very popular with other kit built gyros such as Parsons, Mad Max, RFI's, Falcons, Even Aircommands and Dominators.
I see no reason you couldn't put a Soob on just about any gyro if the time and desire is there to make it happen.
The soob has advantages in some aspects over all other engines, and also has disadvantages. In cases of light aircraft the main disadvantage is weight. Compared to the Rotax 912 series engines, the Subarus weight anywhere from 60-160+ pounds more.
[/QUOTE]The main reason for tossing the auto conversion on the SC 2 was the fact that when put on a dyno the 2.5 only put out 170 hp. ! A big ship like the SC2 needs A solid 180 HP, to over 200 prefer, 225hp to make it have the snappy performance you would expect from a kit costing that much. For a few grand more you can have a certified rated aircraft engine with all the hp, parts and reputation to go with it.
2. 90% of auto conversions fail or "have issues" is because of the prevailing attitude here in the gyro community and the rest of aviation.
A. Ignorance
B. Impatience
C. Cheap $.O.B's.
Ignorance, : Hell bubba did it this way so I should be able to as well....copying failure results in failure.
Impatience: I got to fly now, I will fix that stuff later. Who needs training ? I can train along the way......
Cheap: I do not want to spend money on those gauges to monitor that stuff...when it stops I will fix it, I can always land off field safely !
Jonathan
" Auto conversions will always have their reputation defined by the 90% that wind up with issues. :"Rotax, Lycoming, Continental all offer purpose-built aircraft engines that can be bought off-the-shelf with good track records and warranties. If you're building it for yourself, go for it. If you're building it to sell in volume production into the aviation marketplace, use an aircraft engine.
Looks like a neat setup but I have to be concerned that is a heavy chunk of aluminum hanging off of that mast. I can see they cross braced it but I can tell you from experience that 2x2 is no way going to hold up to a robust landing should they come in hard. Snap, crackle POP ! is going to have new meaning. J
Try this Raton . . .
That sideway look and say:
My name is Raton . . .James Raton!
Or flash some kind of badge: FBI!
Cambada de burros! (where is Craig Wall?)
I suggest you all look again at the Youtube posts by Greg Mitchell, (Sorry Mitch)
See that tree line way in the back? See the Magni taking off with two?
See the Golden taking off with two and all that metal?
Bingo!
Now you are in the know!
Now get reports on Brad King´s Mad Max II with 2.5 no cam grind and with that feature added. Night and day.
Are you assuming that someone made mods you don´t know about and therefore they are wrong?
After you balance and tune a gyro with Sub 2.5, the extra power will make it a better machine. Changes will happen for sure: higher rrpm, landing speed, etc.
Unless . . .you know . . .
I was the balast for two engine change tests in Pat McNear´s RAF, missed the last one that (rumor has it) pushed it over 210 horses. Great changes.
Now, if you did not get it, Raton is looking for a traveling machine, heavier, confortable, long range and good speed, same as me and we went through this caca before.
Most said it coul not be done, I was crazy, dreaming etc. Five years later and we have some good machines around doing that.
Now we are looking to further improvements, adding active suspensions, short take off and the like, but . . .(hate buts) weight is already up in the marks.
Heron
Your "Bonafides" are.........???
Your evasivness to a straight question is akin to the average politician.
Me thinks you is "plagiarizing" whatever you post here, but that's just my view.
The Oz gyro folks back here are reasonably knowledgable of other gyro folks, but you is well and truely a mystery.........strange situation.
Your ongoing secretness only adds to this situation.
Why...............got me buggered.
C YA........:wave:
Anything can be done; getting it to work well is another thing entirely.
It will be interesting to see how it performs. It doesn’t look like he moved the rotor head to compensate for all the extra weight out back.....
Thank you, Vance
Are you referring to 2x2 aluminum or steel? What if the frame is made of steel? (especially with internal reinforcement/stiffeners) The way it appears to be welded suggests steel construction, but I dunno maybe someone knows for sure? Also, look at where the exhaust collector and muffler are nestled. Even if it's well ventilated/cooled and with a good insulative heat shield, can't imagine they'd so directly expose aluminum structural members to the exhaust system of a powerful (heat producing) engine like that.