A Cavalon Crashed

EI-GYRO

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Thanks, Vance. Sounds more realistic. Most of the videos I've seen looked more like 820 feet just to get off the ground. And some landings looked as long, but we can't blame the machine for that. :)
 

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When AG says takeoff distance, I assume they mean wheels off the ground... no mention is made of any obstacles.
 

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When AG says takeoff distance, I assume they mean wheels off the ground... no mention is made of any obstacles.
From the Cavalon POH

Take-off and landing distances account for a 15 m obstacle
 

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I was quoting their sales literature, not the POH. The only note was "typical aircraft configuration, 1 pilot (175 lbs), 10 US gal fuel, 2000 ft MSL" (didn't mention obstacle). Was for a Rotax 915
 
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AG marketing says 30m for takeoff, but that's probably off a hard surface, no tailwind, etc. Then one would need to go 10 feet higher to clear cars, etc. But I'm not sure this guy understood what it really takes to get all that to happen actually.
30 meters for takeoff. Yeah right.
Read the POH. MTO Sport 2017 with 914 to clear 15 meter obstacle at 15 C, at full weight at sea level (standard definition of takeoff distance) gives 637 meters (2090 feet) and that IMO is correct when you see it perform. Marketing material well ...
 

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I was quoting their sales literature, not the POH. The only note was "typical aircraft configuration, 1 pilot (175 lbs), 10 US gal fuel, 2000 ft MSL" (didn't mention obstacle). Was for a Rotax 915
Doug Riley with enough fuel for one circuit might manage it, but he would have the good sense not to try.
I wonder how much of the 10 U.S. gallons is unusable. :)
 

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30 meters for takeoff. Yeah right.
Read the POH. MTO Sport 2017 with 914 to clear 15 meter obstacle at 15 C, at full weight at sea level (standard definition of takeoff distance) gives 637 meters (2090 feet) and that IMO is correct when you see it perform. Marketing material well ...
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even a 5-6 knot tail wind on a gyro can have a dramatic impact on take off distance and I don’t recommend it unless the R/W is long or you have a very high pre rotate energy, even a high pre rotate Rotor speed really has been proven to not add much value in take off distance ... if this pilot was taking off down wind to avoid cross control inputs then he is an idiot and IMO needs training not only as a pilot but on situational awareness, let’s not forget he could have killed a innocent person not only with him but a person on the road 😳 let’s hope we are all speculating? And he appears with a credible explanation
 

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IMO needs training not only as a pilot but on situational awareness
Right now he needs hospital...and a psychiatrist to convince him he is not ‘Sky’ King, if he did think he could TO in that distance.
 

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30 meters to break ground might work as a "take-off, but that only gets you above the grass, not the trees.

Oops - just noticed your post #22, Tyger. Department of Redundancy Department strikes again.
 

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Lucky man (don't know his condition yet) not to be hit by a passing vehicle! We've lost a beloved TV host in an heli emergency landing where the vision was interrupted by an overpass and the trucker could not avoid hitting the craft.
 

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I think redundancy needs to be stamped out and abolished!
 

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Odd way to spend $100k. He could have just deposited the cash to my Paypal...
 

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30 meters for takeoff. Yeah right.
Read the POH. MTO Sport 2017 with 914 to clear 15 meter obstacle at 15 C, at full weight at sea level (standard definition of takeoff distance) gives 637 meters (2090 feet) and that IMO is correct when you see it perform. Marketing material well ...
There's no way they could have meant it can clear a 15m obstacle in 30m. Thirty meters has to mean just wheels-up.
 
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