Help loading by my self

SOoooooooo, Observations...

1-Trailering with the frame to frame attachment leaves only the hard trailer suspension as a cushion, so you are beating the hell out of all the frame joints, motor mounts and the main rotor bearings.

2-to fix problem #1, you need a softer suspension, and/or put a suspension on the landing gear AND mount with tires supporting the gyro.

3- Doing the above will increase the gyro/trailer weight which is already too much to be safely towed by a motorcycle.....

However, it's your @$$ in a sling (until it careens out of control into a toddler) so, put a support (kick stand?) under the trailer tongue to hold the loading angle and then just winch it up with tackle, or a cheap boat winch. The trailer should be balanced enough to allow lifting and attaching to the hitch manually once the gyro is locked down. You could put outboard wheel chocks in front of the fenders and strap the wheels down.
I would fabricate an external ramp to allow the wheels to ride over the fenders to the chocks.
To reduce weight, start with a new trailer that consists of only the outer frame, ramps and a center ramp which could all be made from AL C-channel, or 14 gauge steel C track perlins.
 
Barney:

I can load/unload my single place gyro by myself. Includes assembling, lifting and mounting the 24' Razor blades.
I'm sure you can with your trailer but I am referring to one man loading and unloading on his specific trailer. Take a close look at the pictures of his set-up. He has to get the main gear up and over the trailer wheels, and then back over to unload. I just can't see that being a one man operation. A nice wide flatbed makes for easy loading but will a motorcycle haul it? Speaking of which, what is the tow capacity of the bike? 300 lb gyro probably maxes it out without a trailer.
 
SOoooooooo, Observations...

1-Trailering with the frame to frame attachment leaves only the hard trailer suspension as a cushion, so you are beating the hell out of all the frame joints, motor mounts and the main rotor bearings.

2-to fix problem #1, you need a softer suspension, and/or put a suspension on the landing gear AND mount with tires supporting the gyro.

3- Doing the above will increase the gyro/trailer weight which is already too much to be safely towed by a motorcycle.....

However, it's your @$$ in a sling (until it careens out of control into a toddler) so, put a support (kick stand?) under the trailer tongue to hold the loading angle and then just winch it up with tackle, or a cheap boat winch. The trailer should be balanced enough to allow lifting and attaching to the hitch manually once the gyro is locked down. You could put outboard wheel chocks in front of the fenders and strap the wheels down.
I would fabricate an external ramp to allow the wheels to ride over the fenders to the chocks.
To reduce weight, start with a new trailer that consists of only the outer frame, ramps and a center ramp which could all be made from AL C-channel, or 14 gauge steel C track perlins.
 
Those are some good ideas . As to weight I have hauled a LOT of weight behind my Kawasaki Concours. Notice my co-pilot ?The Moto Guzzi weghts in at 550 lbs haulin-towing camper shell #2.JPGwTowing Guzzi  V 11 from Atl.JPGTowing LOOOONG pipe .jpgP3300059.JPG
 
I sold that to a guy in Indiana or Illinois, can't remember exactly, about 5 years ago. Hard to say where it is now. I had purchased it out of Iowa and have no idea who actually built it. Not much help I know, but could be a direction for you to start designing your own. Still looking for more pictures.
 
I will go get some photo's of my old Bensen trailer. The ramps were hindged and folded over to double as the tie down for the Main gear tires..
It clamped the tires into position.
This guy is a dedicated motor biker. He come to Mentone this year with Gyro in tow behind his bike. 500'ish miles and mostly in the rain.
 
I am no trailer expert by any means, and will be looking for one myself this spring (hopefully). But I was surprised to learn of some of the stability dynamics that aren't obvious. Tongue weight, distribution, speed, harmonics... Youtube has some great video demonstrations on this. At one point I'd considered building a gyro trailer but chickened out after seeing how much I don't know.
 
No picture, sorry. I used to load my Bensen onto the 4x4 trailer by picking up one main wheel and setting it onto a auto jackstand. Then I'd pick up the second main and place it on a second auto jackstand. I'd rock the gyro onto it's nose then roll the trailer (tongue on the ground) under the tail of the gyro and scoot it forward under the suspended gyro on jackstands. As you get the tongue of the trailer under the nosewheel, just lift the tongue and your gyro is lifted onto the trailer as you do so. I'll look for a photo of my set-up but may be unable (1970 ish). Lifting one wheel at a time onto the jackstands is easy if you have good stable jackstands. I made mine to about 1foot height with a wide stance also foldable. I took leaf springs out of my multi-leaf spring so it had a VERY soft ride. NEVER had the rotor mounted, that will just cause severe damage to lots of important stuff.
 
No picture, sorry. I used to load my Bensen onto the 4x4 trailer by picking up one main wheel and setting it onto a auto jackstand. Then I'd pick up the second main and place it on a second auto jackstand. I'd rock the gyro onto it's nose then roll the trailer (tongue on the ground) under the tail of the gyro and scoot it forward under the suspended gyro on jackstands. As you get the tongue of the trailer under the nosewheel, just lift the tongue and your gyro is lifted onto the trailer as you do so. I'll look for a photo of my set-up but may be unable (1970 ish). Lifting one wheel at a time onto the jackstands is easy if you have good stable jackstands. I made mine to about 1foot height with a wide stance also foldable. I took leaf springs out of my multi-leaf spring so it had a VERY soft ride. NEVER had the rotor mounted, that will just cause severe damage to lots of important stuff.
Thats a good Idea !
 
Thank you for all replies . I'm still considering my options . The crane wont do as I'm hauling the KB3 behind my motorcycle .As to vibration , good point , I'm thinking some kind of small air bag at 3 points on the air frame . The long ramp idea seems the best . My BIG concern is WEIGHT . The motorcycle with me and all camping gear is at about 820 lbs .
soo when is Benson Days for '23 happening ?
 
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