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    We have had a very wet summer here in PA....... & now this !

    I pray for all of the victims of this terrible storm.
    Happy Flying, Chris S.

  • #2
    According to marine buoys, this is a mild tropical storm chris , aka a nothing burger! Trumps Catrina !think about it
    Last edited by gyrojeffro; 09-14-2018, 07:28 PM.

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    • #3
      I came across some information regarding the impact of Florence and other hurricanes. It seems that the flooding caused by the storm is severely aggravated by sea level rise. In the end this leads to a new evaluation of the value of a property lying in one of the areas that will be affected by future changes in sea level. An article covering this topic can be found here:
      https://www.axios.com/sea-level-rise...c4d522fcb.html

      Another valuable information is what areas will be affected by future sea level changes. There is a comparison between predicted flood areas and the current situation as well as an extrapolation to 2050 here:
      https://www.axios.com/sea-level-rise...4c3001d64.html


      May He hold his hands above and give strength to all the poor victims of this new desaster!
      Cheers,

      Juergen

      ..Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte..
      ....non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter,...
      ...mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher...
      - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -

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      • #4
        I'm not sure that a decade of rising sea levels will significantly change the waves height of a hurricane(say 30 feet) devastating the shoreline.
        And on the few hours of hurricane duration, the rise of the sea due to the atmospheric depression (say 3 feet) still remains very preponderant.
        In the meantime, the IPCC will have found other sources of subsidies
        Last edited by Jean Claude; 09-27-2018, 11:10 AM.

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        • #5
          My impression from here:
          https://www.axios.com/sea-level-rise...4c3001d64.html

          has been that their simulation has been remarcably accurate and as an engineer my training tells me that a mathematical model which has predicted results that accurately fifty years into the future will accuratly predict the future thirty years from now. The sad news is that all those who bought property in the areas which will be flooded in future hurricanes will have to take into account the fact that they basically can not hand down any value to their children. As we see now with Florence the greatest devastation is not brought about by the storm but by the flooding that comes after it. Here the backwater in the storm-water drainage due to sea level rise considerably exacerbates the flooding. The map in the link above shows that the size of the affected areas will roughly have doubled by 2050.
          Last edited by kolibri282; 09-27-2018, 11:29 PM.
          Cheers,

          Juergen

          ..Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte..
          ....non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter,...
          ...mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher...
          - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -

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          • #6
            Just weeks after Florence we have yet again to express our deepest sympathy to the victims of a terrible desaster. Michael has hit Florida as a hurricane never seen before. It made landfall with wind speeds just 2mph shy of making it category 5. Unfortunately the latest IPCC report on climate change indicates that much worse is to come if we fail to limit global warming. May He hold his hands above and give strength to all the poor victims of this new desaster and give us eyes to see what action is reqired and the strength to do what is necessary.

            https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...report/572356/

            http://www.ipcc.ch/report/sr15/
            Cheers,

            Juergen

            ..Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte..
            ....non quand il n'y a plus rien à ajouter,...
            ...mais quand il n'y a plus rien à retrancher...
            - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry -

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            • #7
              Click image for larger version

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              https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/...icane-strikes/

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              • #8
                Think about it!
                Geometry Dash free online game - click to play Geometry Dash game online. You need to jump over all obstacles. Use your mouse or space bar to jump.

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                • #9
                  Perhaps interesting to read this paper on the greenhouse effect, Juergen
                  According to its author, a greenhouse does not work by blocking infra-red reflected by the interior floor, but by removing the convection.
                  Therefore, the warming theory by anthropogenic CO2 just would built on sand
                  https://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf...707.1161v4.pdf

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                  • #10
                    Meanwhile, California could use a little bit of Florence right now. The fires are horrible. We have smoke in the air even in San Jose, 200 miles south of the Camp Fire. They keep finding more and more charred bodies along the roadways and in burned out cars from failed attempts to flee. I have friends from Paradise who had only moments to escape and lost everything.

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                    • #11
                      I purposely do not have any big trees or other fire fuel near my house. It is built with a metal roof and fire-resistant materials.
                      I'm sure the people in California love living in the forest, but it comes with a risk.
                      Brian

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                      • #12
                        Al Gore, the leading driver of the modern global warming scare, got it backwards; CO2 is responsible for global cooling, not global warming. But that’s no surprise, poor Al flunked every math and science course he ever took.

                        The primary resonance of CO2 molecules occurs in the wavelengths of incoming solar radiation, reflecting part of solar radiation back into space.

                        Thank heavens for water vapor, its molecules resonate in the longer IR wavelengths, serving as a thermal blanket and preventing catastrophic cooling of the Earth.

                        Without water vapor, the Earth would be a frozen lump. (or could I have it backwards?)

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                        • #13
                          The fires in California are getting plenty of news coverage here - they look truly awful - my sympathies to those affected - some coverage here

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46194770

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                          • #14
                            California’s Governor Moonbeam blames the fires on Trump.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by C. Beaty View Post
                              California’s Governor Moonbeam blames the fires on Trump.
                              Trump blames it on "poor forest management" in this tweet:

                              There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!

                              That's pretty bold, given that the majority of the forests in California are managed by Trump's own Federal Government (Forest Service, BLM, etc.) while the state manages only about 3% of California's forests, and the state spends hundreds of millions of its own budget each year on prevention and fire-fighting.

                              That is also pretty bizarre, in that the current fires are not even forest fires; they're at the urban edges, and roaring through towns, not through the forests.

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