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  • #16
    Great info and stories guys. Thanks.
    Regards

    Frank

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    • #17
      Can any UK fliers shed light on why the POH for the Magni 16C has Vne of just 100mph? Is it a regulatory thing?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Tyger View Post
        Can any UK fliers shed light on why the POH for the Magni 16C has Vne of just 100mph? Is it a regulatory thing?
        Dayton Dabbs with Lone Star Magni Gyro told me thatís exactly what it was. He said the UK built in some very conservative assumptions when certifying the gyro there and ended up at 100 mph. On the other hand, Dayton taught me the Vne was 115 and thatís what Iíve been using (though I seldom get much over 100-105 for very long by personal choice). The ASI on my M-16 shows a Vne of 100 and Iíve asked him to get me one showing 115, to be more correct. My understanding is Magni considers it to be 115 based on their testing over the years.

        /Ed

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        • #19
          Originally posted by EdL View Post

          Dayton Dabbs with Lone Star Magni Gyro told me thatís exactly what it was. He said the UK built in some very conservative assumptions when certifying the gyro there and ended up at 100 mph. On the other hand, Dayton taught me the Vne was 115 and thatís what Iíve been using (though I seldom get much over 100-105 for very long by personal choice). The ASI on my M-16 shows a Vne of 100 and Iíve asked him to get me one showing 115, to be more correct. My understanding is Magni considers it to be 115 based on their testing over the years.

          /Ed
          Thanks for confirming that, Ed. I'm using 115 for Vne. I also got an ASI with what seem to be the UK markings, but it was easy enough to change with some operating-range decals, e.g. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catal...ickkey=3035192

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          • #20
            Originally posted by EdL View Post

            Dayton Dabbs with Lone Star Magni Gyro told me thatís exactly what it was. He said the UK built in some very conservative assumptions when certifying the gyro there and ended up at 100 mph. On the other hand, Dayton taught me the Vne was 115 and thatís what Iíve been using (though I seldom get much over 100-105 for very long by personal choice). The ASI on my M-16 shows a Vne of 100 and Iíve asked him to get me one showing 115, to be more correct. My understanding is Magni considers it to be 115 based on their testing over the years.

            /Ed
            Thanks for confirming (as it were) my suspicions.
            The ASI Magni supplied me was marked the same as yours, but my markings were just decals, easily amended using some new operating range decals from A. Spruce (and a sharp knife). Yellow below 30, then green to 100, yellow to 115, and then a tiny bit of red to the limit of the dial.

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            • #21
              Bensen claimed to have "nursed" an open-frame B8M to 115 mph "under carefully controlled conditions." Whatever that means.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Doug Riley View Post
                Bensen claimed to have "nursed" an open-frame B8M to 115 mph "under carefully controlled conditions." Whatever that means.
                Sounds like, "Don't try this at home!"

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tyger View Post

                  Thanks for confirming (as it were) my suspicions.
                  The ASI Magni supplied me was marked the same as yours, but my markings were just decals, easily amended using some new operating range decals from A. Spruce (and a sharp knife). Yellow below 30, then green to 100, yellow to 115, and then a tiny bit of red to the limit of the dial.
                  I have the Kanardia Combo as my ASI, which I like in overall concept but it has two flaws - one ďspecificĒ and one ďgeneralĒ. My specific unitís central LED screen is all white, so it needs to be replaced. Also, generally, because it also shows altitude and therefore has an adjustment knob, it canít be on the CAN bus with a Kanardia altimeter or the two just fight each other. So, Dayton is picking up a basic ASI from them for me that will show a top end of 115 (mine currently shows 100; no red - the yellow arc just stops there).

                  I want mine on the CAN bus so the altimeter can dim the display. Overall Iíve been happy with Kanardia and hope this fixes things long-term.

                  /Ed

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tyger View Post

                    Thanks for confirming (as it were) my suspicions.
                    The ASI Magni supplied me was marked the same as yours, but my markings were just decals, easily amended using some new operating range decals from A. Spruce (and a sharp knife). Yellow below 30, then green to 100, yellow to 115, and then a tiny bit of red to the limit of the dial.
                    I have the Kanardia Combo as my ASI, which I like in overall concept but it has two flaws - one ďspecificĒ and one ďgeneralĒ. My specific unitís central LED screen is all white, so it needs to be replaced. Also, generally, because it also shows altitude and therefore has an adjustment knob, it canít be on the CAN bus with a Kanardia altimeter or the two just fight each other. So, Dayton is picking up a basic ASI from them for me that will show a top end of 115 (mine currently shows 100; no red - the yellow arc just stops there).

                    I want mine on the CAN bus so the altimeter can dim the display. Overall Iíve been happy with Kanardia and hope this fixes things long-term.

                    /Ed

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by EdL View Post

                      I have the Kanardia Combo as my ASI, which I like in overall concept but it has two flaws - one ďspecificĒ and one ďgeneralĒ. My specific unitís central LED screen is all white, so it needs to be replaced. Also, generally, because it also shows altitude and therefore has an adjustment knob, it canít be on the CAN bus with a Kanardia altimeter or the two just fight each other. So, Dayton is picking up a basic ASI from them for me that will show a top end of 115 (mine currently shows 100; no red - the yellow arc just stops there).

                      I want mine on the CAN bus so the altimeter can dim the display. Overall Iíve been happy with Kanardia and hope this fixes things long-term.

                      /Ed
                      Ah OK. I have the Kanardia Digi for my engine parameters. I wish I knew how to dim it, because it's WAY too bright after sunset. Why would you want your altimeter to dim the display, though?

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                      • #26
                        For whatever reason it seems Kanardia has made it so you can only dim the Digi and some others by having the Alt on the CAN bus and using the adjustment knob on it.

                        /Ed

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