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Old 03-26-2004, 09:10 AM
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Thanks all.

Udi......

No gas....295lbs.

Gas @ 8.3 gal=50lbs

Me= 218lbs

total bird, me, and a full tank=563lbs

I figure @ 22 foot rotor system A=379.94 which is 1.48lbs per square inch.

I figure @ 24 foot rotor system A=452.16 which is 1.25lbs per square inch.

To me when I first flew the 22s I felt like I was gonna fall out of the sky with every turn, but I was also flying way behind the power curve.

Now that I've learned alittle about flying mine, the 24s feel great! Even a little floaty on landings.

If you feel the 23 DW are the ticket, I'm in! I do worry about ground strike with the 24s when spinning the blades to balance and tail first, super slow landings.

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Old 03-26-2004, 10:57 AM
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John,

Here is the calculation for Da Screw, fitted with a pair of 23 DWs, flying at a DA of 1000 ft (calc courtesy CB). The numbers look really good, but you should really get Ernie's blessing before buying.

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Udy, The machine Ron was flying was totally different than what John is flying. John, in my opion, will need longer blades due to the lack of thrust. Flyem, then buyem!
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Mr. Mike Boyette,

Could you run these wieghts and measure by your Dad and see what he says please? Don't know to go with 23s or 24s. Thanks in advance.

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John,
I spoke to him earlier in the week he said he wouldn't go any bigger than 23' disk on a VW powered KB2. I Hope this helps. I think if you went to a 24' disk you would have ground clearence problems. I maybe wrong. When I see hime tommarow I will ask him again. He does visit this forum, however he usually only reads posts. He leaves it up to me to post.
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John, just a minor (well, maybe not so minor!) point, gas weighs pretty close to 6.5 lb/gal. Water is what weighs 8.3 lb/gal.
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Udi, John IS a lot fatter than me. I lost 3 pounds this week and still pushing 203. John has about 15-20 pounds on me.
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Dean,

8.3 gal is the size of my tank. I figured 6lbs per gal. 50lbs because 6x8.3=49.8lbs.

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You wouldn't wiegh 203 on the moon!

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Mike,

How much would Dad come off a set of 23s taking on trade-in for my Brock Blades 2 foot hub bar (22ft) and blade box?

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John,
No trade ins. I posted the price list earlier. You can save yourself shipping if you pick them up at BD.
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John my scale is expensive and digital - and tells me my body fat percentage as well. 203 baby! It is okay to be upset, I will comfort you over a round of McDonalds double cheeseburgers at Roc....
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Mike,

I new the answer...I was trying to be cute.

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Your on! I'm a sucker for MD double cheeseburgers. How did you lose the wieght? Dr. Phill's new book?

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I call it the "Working the weedwacker" diet plan. I am back to work, back to walking my Arse off all over peoples lawns with the weedwacker and blowers and fertilizer spreaders etc.... - I get to sit on my mower so I do get a break! -

Winter time is hard on my body with nothing much physical to do. Once I start working I can lose weight fast. I plan - yeah right you say.... - to stop smoking, and cut back on the portions of food I eat and maybe even exercise a little this summer. This beer belly I got is embarassing
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thats the reason I got 180hp. my pasengers alway tell me I shouldlose weight to carry bigger people but I told them. Iam the owner you want to fly build one.

I am slowly working it out any way.

Question the rotro hawk blades that is mentioned in the thread. are they the new version or old version. I have flow the old one not the new one nor Ernie's blades. But I have 2 guys here that said they leike the new version (I think they are fleck) But thenm I have a guy with an aircomand and he likes the Dragonwind.

I just want to understand more the Naca Foil issues as explained by CB on a precios dicusion plus I am been ask for advice and want to give a honest opinion.
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