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Old 03-11-2005, 06:06 AM
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Tomorrow at 8.53 ZULU +1, the sun will shine through the hole in the mountain and the rays will lighten the belltower of the church for a few minutes. This occurs twice a year and attracts quite a few onlookers.
The hole, although looking tiny, is 50 ft. broad and 40 ft. high. We were tempted to fly trough it with hanggliders, but these have a wingspan of up to 40 ft., and usually, there is a bumpy wind passing through it. So it was considered too risky. Besides that, it is not easy to get up there with gliders, the hole is at some 8300 ft. MSL. But with a small aircraft or gyro - if you aim with accuracy .. ?
BTW, this region is world famous among geologists. The rock above the dotted line is twice as old as the limestone underneath. In this mountains, the geologists found out how all the mountain ranges of the world were "produced". That's why the region is to be named a UNESCO world heritage - like the Grand Canyon of the Colorado river.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:19 AM
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Nyaahh...Too cold for this Florida boy; up there.


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Old 03-11-2005, 08:23 AM
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Peter,

I assume that this mountian range is in Switzerland. Am I correct? Where is this place exactly?
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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There were a society of Indians out west before the Spanish arrived that built many structures at different locations each exactly lined up with all the others and with proportionally different sizes. Many scientists wondered how a "primitive" culture could have done such a thing. They continued to excavate and uncover the life and customs of these people but were never able to find what architectural model they were able to reconstruct with such accuracy.

About five or six years ago an archiologist happened to notice at a very specific time of day and year that the sun shown through a slit between two mountains and lit up a small diagram scratched on the side of a bolder next to where he just happened to be standing. The etchings were otherwise unnoticeable.

The diagram showed precisely the formula the natives used to align their structures to each other and the formula of proportions to build each structure. These were not just some primitive people; they were highly educated in the movements of the stars and other celestial bodies, had an advanced understanding of agriculture and social engineering. They were obviously very advanced thinkers and one day just disappeared without a trace. Their buildings and culture stopped and became ruins to be found one day by others to speculate.
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(but I can write my name in the snow )
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I'd be happy to do it .... in a flight simulator!
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Old 03-12-2005, 03:10 AM
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The village is called Elm (Switzerland), it's about 15 miles south of my place. It's a little ski resort.
Part of the "old rock above new rock" phenomenon is on display in the States. Specialists of the American Museum of Natural History in New York made a 30 x 30 ft. latex copy of a place called "Lochsite" and formed a one to one replica out of this. Which is now shown there (as far as I know).

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Greeny,
I understand the question. Decades ago when I flew helicopters around the USS Kittyhawk aircraft, I often wondered if one could fly our UH-2A through the open hangar bay doors in one side of the ship and out the other -- never tried.
One friend stationed in Atsugi, Japan area did hover his UH-25 around a Budda statue, put one wheel on it's head and do a 360 degree pivot turn. Next day he was "deported" back to USA. My friend retired from the airlines as a 747 pilot.

AIMING -- last week I sent a coyote to the taxidermist with a 120 meter shot, SKS -47 and scope. Just proved that this old man, who hadn't pulled the trigger in over a year, STILL GOT WHAT IT TAKES ---------LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-12-2005, 06:01 AM
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If you hit anything small over 100 yds with a SKS it is luck more than skill... how tight is the 5-shot group?

Russian arms were built with very loose tolerences to enable field reliability.
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:57 PM
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Even though I prefer the 5.56 over the 7.62 x 39 , the AR15/M16 don't group real tight either.... unless you freefloat the barrel & accurize.

We do hit a 2 ft gong with a suppressed bolt action Rem .308 at 600yds pretty consistently though.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:07 PM
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chris i agree but ill aim 110 grain .270 lol lol lol
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:24 PM
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Cobra,

I don't know what a "tight" five shot group is!!!!!!! I don't waste money with target practice.

I just killed the varmit. -- with a witness.
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Dave , have you ever "called" in coyotes or fox? Hand call or electronic? Or do you just spot & shoot?
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I use mouth calls now to call in coyotes. I can't afford the electronic stuff. Funny you guys started on this topic. I'm going to a gun show in a few hours. I hope to get a REAL collapsible stock for my AR (aka squirrel gun), not one of the stupid "politically correct" stocks that Bill Klinton forced us into for the past 10 years.

As for hitting the mountian hole, look up the Windrider 50, or even the AR-50. These also do a real number on coyotes.
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Last coyote I shot was with a .22 at 30 feet: he had one of our big hens down. Dave, glad to see you on the Forum.
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