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Old 01-21-2014, 10:59 AM
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Everything designed and built by man has some inherent problems. It takes time and the force of will to work the bugs out…assuming the product life will allow. The Chevy Vega or the GM 350 diesel...no.

The Bell 206 series has flown over 32 million flight-hours. The record shows that the Jet Ranger is the most reliable helicopter in the world According to the NTSB, the 206 series helicopters are the safest single engine aircraft ever made including fixed wing airplanes.

Now that’s indeed a proven track record.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:39 AM
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Was aware it was a great helicopter but the safest single engine aircraft is surprising in that it was a helicopter.
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Old 01-21-2014, 01:31 PM
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Link to that info?
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Old 01-21-2014, 02:44 PM
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Yeah, I heard that quite a while ago at an FAA Rotary Wing Safety Conference. It may be safe but it's no where near as much fun to fly as an H-500 though !
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:03 PM
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I've seen it before, some of these are rather old. But I doubt things have changed much...

http://flightsafety.org/fsd/fsd_aug91.pdf
http://www.bellhelicopter.com/MungoB...etyHistory.pdf
http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/speeches/...ssionalism.pdf
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:07 PM
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It may be safe but it's no where near as much fun to fly as an H-500 though !
Yeah, never been in one and know by looking that's true, I love that Helicopter.
When I become president of the United States and filthy rich by all means possible that is going to be my 2nd helicopter.
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Old 01-21-2014, 03:29 PM
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As useual, one statistic only tells one part of the story.
I'm sure of oz heli muster pilots didn't keep bumpn the ground with R22s, they would have a much better record.
A breed of tyre that never leaves the black road and never goes over 40 mph would also have the best safety record.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:49 PM
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Birdy,
What you are saying is true but in this case 32 million flight-hours has to tell a real story.
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:02 PM
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Yep, the real story is, they ain't used for musters.
Not taken anything away from Bell, just sayn if you only fly in cotton wool....... .
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:22 PM
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I'm not sure extreme or hazardous use should be considered in real world safety results as those flights are clearly out of their "safe" limits and taint what would otherwise be normal flight safety records, besides, everybody knows people from your area are crazy



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Old 01-21-2014, 06:32 PM
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Hell, then I can tinker the stats on my record too, and I can have 6000 hours without a bend.
Yeh rite.

In the REAL world, every hour is counted.

You can't discount dead.
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Cotton wool? Hmmm...

The 206 has a long history of search & rescue, air ambulance, offshore oil service, law enforcement, fire suppression, heli-ski transport, Alaskan bush flying, and a host of other uses in hostile conditions and environments, so it's not like they were only flown high on VFR days to visit big airports. Perhaps not routinely used for mustering, but certainly doing plenty of tough tasks in rough places that are beyond the capability of an R-22.
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I did not read where the stats came from, just general aviation, could be they don't omit any particular type of flying, it seems doubtful they were tinkered with to create an illusion of the bell 206 safety. Even at that, lets say for argument purposes they were omitted, those total hours of mustering would represent some miniscule amount when you are looking at 30 million plus flight hours.
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Chips, I never said they omitted the hours from the Bell hours, I said they didn't do um in the first place.

And Wasp, I'm not sayn the Bell isn't a safe reliable machine or it don't do serious work.
Wot I said is, it's operated within its design limits, and it's reliable, that's why the good record.
The R22 was orogionaly ment for light personal flyn, and training.
It wasn't ment to have its neck rung in confined spaces for hours on end, in less than favorable conditions.

Anyone attempting to muster moos ina 206 has rocks in his head.
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Chips, I never said they omitted the hours from the Bell hours, I said they didn't do um in the first place.

And Wasp, I'm not sayn the Bell isn't a safe reliable machine or it don't do serious work.
Wot I said is, it's operated within its design limits, and it's reliable, that's why the good record.
The R22 was orogionaly ment for light personal flyn, and training.
It wasn't ment to have its neck rung in confined spaces for hours on end, in less than favorable conditions.

Anyone attempting to muster moos ina 206 has rocks in his head.

As you have said numerous times over the years Birdy, "Horses for courses".

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