FLIGHT REVIEW at Mentone

[Steve McGowan]

Ron Menzie and myself have discussed having a formal flight review at Mentone this year.

It will consist of Ground Observation of 3 takeoffs and landings.with you in your gyro. Or flying in the Black with me.

One hour of ground class with Ron. By no means is this to conflict with other CFI's or they're students/pilots which may be there.

At this time, as I have stated,, this is in the discussion stages now. So if your interested and need a review.. Let us know..

As always.. Im usually there atleast the week-end before, flying with those that want/need to get instructions before the crowds start.

And I do hope there will be LOTTS of Attendance since it is the 50th PRA Anniversary.

Steve

ps.. whomever did the catering last year.... It WAS "FANTASTIC"..

[Murray]

Hi Steve
I plan on getting there early this year and will be bringing my gyro.
Looking forward to meeting up.
Murray

[PW_Plack]

Steve, thanks to you and Ron for making this available. It makes so much sense to get the hour of classroom time done in a group.

[Chuck Roberg]

Per 61.56 a Flight Review may not be ground observed. It has to be training given in the type of aircraft which the pilot and CFI are rated in.

Ground observed flight reviews used to be allowed. But the regs were changed some time ago.

[Jazzenjohn]

Aren't you allowed to get a ground observed Sport Pilot flight review? I thought that was allowed, but you were then limited to single person operations?

[Chuck Roberg]

Originally Posted by Jazzenjohn

Aren't you allowed to get a ground observed Sport Pilot flight review? I thought that was allowed, but you were then limited to single person operations?

Not quite. Here is an excerpt from the final rule for Sport Pilot.

http://sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule.pdf Scroll down to page 217

The FAA received several comments asking how a flight review required by
§61.56 would be accomplished in a single-seat aircraft. A sport pilot who is issued a
certificate with a single-seat limitation must complete a flight review every 24 calendar
months, as required by §61.56. The flight review is required to establish that a sport pilot
still maintains the knowledge and skills to exercise sport pilot privileges. There are
several methods for accomplishing a flight review under §61.56. If the flight review will
be accomplished in an aircraft, it must be in an aircraft with a minimum of two seats, in
which the pilot is rated, and with an authorized instructor. In addition, the flight review
must be conducted with a current and qualified authorized instructor who must act as
pilot in command during the conduct of the flight. Therefore, a flight review cannot be
conducted in a single seat aircraft.

[Steve McGowan]

Looks like it'll all be flying time then..Appreciate the heads up...

ps.. lets start a new thread on this... Shall we..

[Texasautogyro]

So does this mean that they no longer issue single seat only certificates? How do you do a checkride in their machine? How do you solo in their aircraft for transition? So they take a test in a dual and figure out how to fly a single? The regs say you have to have 5 hrs as a CFI in the model you are training in. So Lets say the student has a KB2 the CFI needs to be checked out in it befor he can transition the student to solo in it. Am I seeeing this correct?

[CLS447]

Am I the only one here that forgets how to fly his gyro every other year ?

I also have trouble with my bikes & motorcycles, too ! A good review in a strange machine is always good for the soul, especially when it involves lots of money & travel !

[Steve McGowan]

KB-2..= catagory and type as a Parsons Trainer.. And I will have the Black there.


And its style of gyro instructed more folks since Bill Parsons came up with that design in the early 80's than anything else built..And SOLO is not needed for the flight review.

Im quite sure you already know this,, atleast you should since you stated that you are a "Gyro Trainer"..

You didn't say "Instructor"..

[WaspAir]

Originally Posted by Texasautogyro

The regs say you have to have 5 hrs as a CFI in the model you are training in.

FAR 61.195 requires fives hours in type only for helicopters, multiengine airplanes, and powered lift (a.k.a "tiltrotor"), but not for gyroplanes. A full CFI does not need any time in the model to instruct in a gyroplane, glider, single engine airplane, etc.

If you are only a Sport Pilot Instructor, you need five hours in the same "set" of aircraft as the make and model to be used. FAR 61.415(e).

[Scary Gary]

I'm glad the Goverment hasn't made this confusing !

[Steve McGowan]

Originally Posted by Chuck Roberg

Per 61.56 a Flight Review may not be ground observed. It has to be training given in the type of aircraft which the pilot and CFI are rated in.

Ground observed flight reviews used to be allowed. But the regs were changed some time ago.

You are correct,, it is neccessary that dual flight be part of a flight review..

That is also part of the review at Mentone..

[gyronutjoe]

Yep, I've got this figured out??? I'll stay with part 103 ultralight rules and not worry about a sport pilot license.

[All_In]

OK my friends.

So I show up with my Genesis G1sa and need to get signed off for type or a flight review.
Chuck how do we proceed from here to get me rated in a single place?