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Old 04-02-2012, 10:38 PM
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Do you know anything about this outfit?, nice website.

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Old 04-03-2012, 12:54 AM
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ah, that is what Andy Siebenhofer is doing nowadays.

He is Austrian and ran a flight school, which was closed down, as his licenses were not meeting the expectations of the customers (i.e. legally flying in other European countries). He then worked in several Arabian countries to establish gyroplanes for security, police and military operations. This must be his advertisement for this business.
"Sieben" means seven in German, and he often calls himself 7hofer. Thus the name.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:37 AM
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When visiting the factory Chris had mentioned to me possible interest in using the aircraft for aerial surveillance. I guess this is it.

The Xenon was trying for this type of market, and sold some aircraft for that purpose to an African Country. That aircraft seemed a little more suitable airframe wise with the model that had viewing panels in the floor near the nose, where it could also mount a FLIR system. ArrowCopter probably not so easy as it sits pretty low to the ground
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:48 AM
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ah, that is what Andy Siebenhofer is doing nowadays.

He is Austrian and ran a flight school, which was closed down, as his licenses were not meeting the expectations of the customers (i.e. legally flying in other European countries).

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Maybe, Kai, legally flying in other European countries is not as what he shows in his video below. You can watch some crazy things at 3.00 of video. Spins with two
O.B. at such low altitude, yes his flight school should be closed down, and I believe he did CORRECT.
Heres the video.
Gyrocopter Flying with Andi Siebenhofer OE9PTI OE9KGJ - YouTube
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Could it be related to the "US ASC" type registrations seen on several gyros out in Eastern Europe - do they have validity?
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Hi Paddy!!!

I have absolutely on knowledge about this but wanted to just say hello and ask how is teaching going and how have you been?
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Maybe, Kai, legally flying in other European countries is not as he shows in his video below. You can watch some crazy things at 3.00 of video. Spins with two
O.B. at such low altitude, yes his flight school should be closed down, and I believe he did CORRECT.
Heres the video.
Gyrocopter Flying with Andi Siebenhofer OE9PTI OE9KGJ - YouTube
Hello Giorgos,

I watched the video and it appeared to me he was doing relatively steep turns rather than spins near the ground.

I admit that I climb up to at least 1,800 feet AGL before I practice steep turns because sometimes I lose some altitude if I pull her up too tight even with the throttle wide open.

It appeared to me he was managing his altitude well and the turns werent all that steep.

At the risk of exposing my ignorance am I missing some particularly bad behavior that has you on edge?

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I did NOT have the experience to say the same thing Vance.
But as my first landing was a Twist and Shot with Ron I probably do not know any better?

Ron kept is blades well loaded pull out in plenty of time to do an engine off landing and I saw no danger as I observed him inspect the rotors just prior to taking off.
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Thanks for the email update buddy!
Your up coming trip sounds like it will be fun!!!
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I have not met Andi in person, I only just missed him when I was in Hungary. All who know him say, he knows what he is doing and is teaching very conservatively.

And yes, these were the ASC licenses, which do not allow you to fly in Germany.

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All who know him say, he knows what he is doing and is teaching very conservatively.

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Kai,
All too often we hear that ( very experienced and they know what they are doing.)
If we analyze the last fatal accidents we will see all were involved with exprienced pilots. Pilots who (knew?) what they were doing.
I don't like posting this video but I have to. Just for the sake of safety. This guy was very experinced and knew what he was doing too. There are many other videos which show the same results.
Dos muertos al estrellarse un helicóptero en Vilafranca-Accident crash Авария - YouTube
I remember for years ago the most dangerous gyro pilots involved in fatal accidents were low time pilots. Few hours after solo.
Now its the opposite.
We have to fly within the limits of our machines if we have a passenger o.b. Alone we can do whatever.
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I flew with Andi 7hofer at Meidl airfield for some days while transitioning to MTOsport and Calidus and I second what Kai said.
Andi knows and feels these machines very well and flies them thoroughly. And he flies them safe, never on the edge.

I understand what Giorgos means but Andi isn't that case. He isn't a skilled desperado, just a real profi: experienced, careful and loving his flying job.
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I flew with Andi 7hofer at Meidl airfield for some days while transitioning to MTOsport and Calidus and I second what Kai said.
Andi knows and feels these machines very well and flies them thoroughly. And he flies them safe, never on the edge.

I understand what Giorgos means but Andi isn't that case. He isn't a skilled desperado, just a real profi: experienced, careful and loving his flying job.
Hi Alex,
I must say that I feel relief of what you mention.
It is the case (s) where really feel happy that I am wrong.
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