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Old 11-25-2004, 01:35 PM
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I got to treat myself to a flight after a nice turkey meal. This is the first snow I have flown over in my RAF. I was looking for deer and after an hour I found a whole herd. The last picture has a deer in it by my shadow.

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Old 11-25-2004, 01:41 PM
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more snowy shots
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deer....a whole herd.....there was one big buck in this group that had a huge rack on him.
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Now all you need is a big shotgun on the nose of that bird Stan!

All those pics of snow has me excited and yet dreading the snow we will likey get here later this winter... All wet and cold and soggy... Yuck! But it does make for something interesting to see and play in - I like to drive when the roads are crappy, like to slip and slid, drifting the truck around! When it is really bad here and before they scrape the roads, all the guys with Dirt Bikes and Atvs pull out their machines and drive them down public roads and the police don't seem to mind. Now that is alot of fun!
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I got frost bite just looking at the photos
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Ya know, A guy and a red flying machine... reindeer... Christmas around the corner... Stan, you wouldn't own a red suit by some chance. Na, couldn't be. Or could it?
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"Birdy" Foster Deer musterer....?
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Some time ago I mentioned seeing deer and commented that they hardly look up. Birdy said I wasnt low enough.


Well....Birdy was right.

Also...in post #3....the deer at the very lower right is the buck. If you zoom in on him....he looks just like the deer that posed for the JOHN DEERE emblem....at the least its his brother.


Brian.....I never believed in flying deer....but believe me....they were off the ground....

Also Brian....I am SANTA. My name STAN is just a cover. Just move the T in SANTA between the S and the A .......and you get STAN A

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STanta, I want a certified engine for x-mas. Needs to be about 120-120 hp.

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Stan, it sure looks like fun! And thanks for the pictures. After reading your post, my next stop was Aero-news Propwash. I was startled to learn that some states are "touchy" about this subject:
"Low-Flying Hunting Guide Pays Huge Fine
Kansas Doesn't Approve Of Airborne Deer Hunting

It's the biggest fine Kansas
has ever levied in a wildlife case -- $104,000 assessed to a
hunting guide who used planes to spot and hunt down deer."
I'm really NOT mentioning this to throw cold water on your mustering, but was startled by it. Keep up the good works.
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Stan:

I think you caught more deer in that one shot than we have in all of Central Florida.

A couple of those shots reminded me of Alaska...Brrrrr!!


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Stan
Here in New Zealand we still have the hunting of deer by hellicopter. Perhaps a lot less than about 15 years ago when the number of hellicopters per head off population was very high. Now there are herds of deer being farmed. These herds were established by capturing live deer by hellicopter and breading them in captivity. I have a couple of VHS videos I bought on the topic. The first is called. The Venison Hunters and the second The Last Greatest Adventure. Both are made by 'South Coast Productions' Which I expect is a New Zealand company.
You are welcome to borrow them if you can gaurantee their return.
I are curious about your pictures though. The Deer you located were out on wide open farm land with no apparent natural cover. Is there not mountains or forest near which they live in ? If you were to catch deer in the open here it would more likely be on the snow tops of mountains and definitly not flat like in your pictures. Our Hunter Pilots would have a fielday catching deer there.
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Also Brian....I am SANTA. My name STAN is just a cover. Just move the T in SANTA between the S and the A .......and you get STAN A

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Think about it- no one has ever seen Stan and Santa in the same room at the same time! Maybe he is Santa!

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Tinkering Tom: Hunting deer from an aircraft is a big no no. I refused to make more than one pass over this herd.


Colin: There are wooded areas and ditches every few miles. These deer just love to roam....they have a very nice life....lots of cornstalks to forage...and they know where the woods are of course. Here in Ford county...only 2% of the acreage is in woods.

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Low-Flying Hunting Guide Pays Huge Fine

Kansas Doesn’t Approve Of Airborne Deer Hunting

It’s the biggest fine Kansas has ever levied in a wildlife case -- $104,000 assessed to a hunting guide who used planes to spot and hunt down deer.

Dwight Krebs, 51, of Scott City, not only has to pay the fine, but he’s now on three years’ probation and is banned from hunting or shooting.

Krebs was indicted last March, charged with illegally using an aircraft to harass or kill deer or geese, according to the US Attorney’s office. He pleaded guilty on August 3rd.

The investigation started two years ago when local hunters complained to the Kansas Department of Wildlife Protection.

"They called KDWP [Kansas Department of Wildlife Protection] and complained about a yellow airplane they thought was chasing deer," said US Fish and Wildlife Special Agent Kenny Kessler in an interview with the Wichita Eagle. "They referred the information to us, and we started a joint investigation."

Undercover agents booked hunts on Krebs’ ranch, which sits astride the Logan-Grove County line. They paid $2,500 -- the fee Krebs advertised on the Internet -- for a chance to shoot deer from above.

In addition to the aircraft-related charges, Krebs and his hired guide, Jim Jenkins were accused of illegally using radios and vehicles to hunt deer. Jenkins was also charged with putting a buck shot by one of the undercover agents on his own permit. Both were accused of illegally transporting game across state lines.

Jenkins had to give up his hunting rifle to wildlife authorities and must serve one months’ house arrest.

Agents confiscated Krebs’ 1993 Piper Super Cub. He paid $89,000 in Septemer to get it back. Tuesday, he paid $15,000 restitution.

"I'm glad it's all over,” Krebs told the Eagle after paying the final installment. “It's been a very expensive lesson and a very stressful time. I'm glad to finally put it all behind me and move on."

FMI: www.kdwp.state.ks.us
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