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08-29-2004, 05:48 AM
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Question about cluster plates, why does StarBee have 2 separate ones?
On their website, they have 2 sets of cluster plates - one for the single mast(which I'm using) and one for the redundant mast. Does anyone know why? Are they different? Will the plates shown in the documentation work with the single mast?
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08-29-2004, 05:58 AM
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Cluster plates
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One set is for the mast and keels. The other set is for the nose gear and keel assembly.
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08-29-2004, 07:24 AM
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cluster plates
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Everyone seems to recommend the redundant mast. In my own experience I have yet to hear of a mast failure. That is, unless there was some outside force such as a blade strike or rollover. I think it is a personal choice with what you feel comfortable with using. Maybe someone else has a comment. How about you other Gyrobees???
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08-29-2004, 07:44 AM
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Redundent mast
I believe it was Doug Riley that told me that he had once heard of someone who had broken a mast in the air, but made it safely to the ground due to the redundent side still intact. It just makes me feel a little better!
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08-30-2004, 12:28 AM
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I find that hard to believe, if one broke I doubt the other would be able to instantly take the load. What was the guys name? Besides the numbers don't lie - the single mast is stronger....
Also there has NOT been a report of a single mast failing, so if your story is true, its proof the the redudant mast is inferior!!! 
Last edited by KDOG; 08-30-2004 at 05:30 AM.
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08-30-2004, 05:15 AM
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IF the wall is 1/8 on the 2 1x2 mast then the bolt hole the be to far apart for the 3/16 tube wall so plates are made for each type not hard to see why.
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08-30-2004, 05:30 AM
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As a by-product, it will also affect the length/hole locations of the Fuel Tank Diagonal Struts (see dwg. G7-5 on Ralph's plans). If the cluster plate holes are moved, then the Diagonal Tank Struts hole needs to be relocated accordingly, otherwise the mount will not be perpendicular to the mast.
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08-30-2004, 05:44 AM
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Kevin,
To the eye they will look identical. The distance between the 2 vertical rows of holes is only 1/8" difference (1/16" each side), such that the holes maintain their 1/32" clearance from the inside walls of the tube.
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08-30-2004, 05:50 AM
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OK!!! Heres the deal...I just called StarBee and talked to someone (might have been Dana) and the reason there are two different plates is because the wall thickness of the single mast is greater so some holes have to be closer IN than with the redundant mast. Also, anyone using the single mast DO NOT drill per Ralphs plans. StarBee is kind enough to include an updated drill pattern for the single mast when you buy it. They also confirmed that the single mast IS stronger. On an interesting side note, Ralph himself is using the the single mast on the new Bee he's building...how 'bout that?
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08-30-2004, 09:46 AM
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Mast Breaking(hard to believe)
I'm not trying to perpetuate an "amazing "story . FIRST, It's not MY story.I'm simply passing on a incident that I heard of happening. Besides, If it never happened, why did some gyro manufacturers go to a redundent mast option to begin with? (I believe Air Command did.) I THINK it might have been Doug that told me of this . If ANYBODY knows speak up.
Last edited by Dale Young; 08-30-2004 at 09:55 AM.
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08-30-2004, 10:01 AM
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If I had known that to begin with, I'd probably gone single too, but that story echos in my head.
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