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Old 02-05-2009, 01:45 PM
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Default Did Anyone Ever Use Hydraulics for Rotor Control?

I figure that with something as light as gyro controls, that hydraulics is probably overkill and over-complication. But, in thinking about it, I had to ask. Anyone ever tried it? Did it work? Was it a terrible idea or a great idea?

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Old 02-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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I’ve seen one gyro that used hydraulic cylinders instead of pushrods to tilt the rotorhead.

Large helicopters use the equivalent of power steering to control the swashplate.
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:31 PM
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How about push pull cables/rods?
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Old 02-05-2009, 03:46 PM
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The Littlewing, among others, uses push-pull cables.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:42 PM
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The push-pull cables can be controlled with a "Morse mixer" arrangement as shown here.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:59 PM
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Do you have more/better photos and sketches for this device?
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:00 PM
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The UFO helithruster has push pull cables that control the rotorhead.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:02 PM
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What in the World is that apparatus, Al?

Could it be a device by the late BJ Schramm? He seemed to be very fond of Morse cables, using one for collective in the very first Scorpion.

Someone once told me a story about the Morse cable on his Scorpion developing a whipping motion that made it feel like a rattletrap car going down a washboard road. I have no idea of the story’s veracity.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:56 PM
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Ben, that's the only picture I've got, sorry to say.

Chuck, I can't recall where the picture came from. Its been a few years since it was first posted on one of the forums. Pretty sure its not one of BJ's devices.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
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I could use more info on the type of push pull cables. where to get them. and any thing elts that would help
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John, the push pull cables on the UFO were the same that boats use for the steering. May check boat part suppliers
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I just found a company that will build them right here in town.
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In the Czech Sky Walker are also cables.

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Any more views of the sky walker ?

Whats the big cable for ?

My guess is its got a big parachute at the other end of it.
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The big cable is to get tangled around the rotorhead so that the blades stop in-flight. for very quick unplanned landings !!!!!!!!

Can't they add some more stuff up there ?????
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