The Dynali two place

[Wannabe1]

The current Experimental Helo magazine has a picture and blurp on the kit 2 place Dynali.

http://www.dynali.com/en/home.htm

http://www.kit-helicopter.eu/index.php



Appears to be a pretty new company with the aircraft using a Subaru fuel injected engine, fenestron feathers, parachute, governor, 1370# gross, unknown price and unknown drive system. Anyone here know anything about this bird?

[Sita]

I visited the factory a few years ago here in Belgium.The frame is (was?) stainless steel and the thing I remember the most was the redicilous noise levell that fenestron produced !!It sounded like a turbine engine !!

It's a well made machine and a company that has (had) the support of the Wallon gov.



Cita

[Wannabe1]

Hello Cita...

Do you remember what kind of drive was installed to the tail rotor? Any fit and finish recollections? Any idea of the price of the kit?

The videos off their web site does reveal the turbine like sound you mention. I think I could live with that if the price and construction were right.

Thanks,
Tom

Originally Posted by Cita

I visited the factory a few years ago here in Belgium.The frame is (was?) stainless steel and the thing I remember the most was the redicilous noise levell that fenestron produced !!It sounded like a turbine engine !!

It's a well made machine and a company that has (had) the support of the Wallon gov.



Cita

[Fly Army]

Nice design, useful load just looks way too small.

[Sita]

Hello Tom,

I'm not too sure what you mean with "what kind of drive was installed at the tailrotor" but if you mean if it was shaft driven than I "think" (almost certain) that it was shaft driven and not a belt and pulley system.
It's some years ago and I visited them when they where still working on the single seat prototype.
Apparently they have come a long way since.

I don't know where you live Tom but at the moment it might not be the best time to buy something from Europe. One Euro is roughly 1 1/2 dollar "worth" so the Dynali might prove to be a bit expencive at the moment.

Those guys seemed to have everything in order at that time and they didn't rush things nor did they made any "claims" based on theoretical figures.Like I said they are around for a couple of years so must have some kind of financial back-up to take the job serious.

Nice thing to know is that in the early days they did all the testflying themselves so they must had "some" faith in what they where doing.

Cita

[Wannabe1]

Thanks Cita...

I did get an answer back from Mr. Michau this morning on some of my questions;


From: DYNALI / SA [mailto:info@dynali.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:29 AM

Subject: Re: Dynali kit

Hello Mister

You can visit our address: www.dynali.com
Answers to your questions:
Price: 90 000 € net of tax
Set-up time: 250 hours
Engine: origin SUBARU new , not used , of 165 HP
Options : panel numéric with GPS
Payment:
- 50% with the order
- 50% with the delivery of the kit (ex-works)
We invite you to come to Belgium to test our helicopter in flight
Regards .
Daniel MICHAU

[tyc]

Have any of you noticed which way the main rotor turns?

Consider that, then consider that in most cases, your helicopter training was in machines whose rotors turned the other way - emphasis on emergency response from the pilot when that "sudden silence" occurs. What is it you're supposed to do, essentially by instinct, automatically?

tyc

[brett s]

In practice it's not an issue - you push whatever pedal you need to keep the nose pointed where it's supposed to be.

What would be a lot harder is something like a backwards throttle, as a few Russian piston ships have!

[WaspAir]

Originally Posted by Fly Army

Nice design, useful load just looks way too small.

The site says 245kg, which is about 540 lbs, so it's still more than an R-22.

[Fly Army]

Originally Posted by WaspAir

The site says 245kg, which is about 540 lbs, so it's still more than an R-22.

Yessssss, 540lbs with zero fuel in the tank.

[Wannabe1]

The Robbie is 1370# - 869# (the one I fly) = 501# with zero fuel in the tanks. Add full fuel of 29.7 usable fuel and that leaves me 323# for people and and baggage. Although it isn't clear if the parachute is part of the base weight or is an option, they are doing a tad better than Robinson.

[Fly Army]

Well that would leave me with a 123lb friend to take along. Even if I had a 123lb friend they would probably want to bring baggage.

[barnstorm2]

Saw this in the new issue of Vertical...

[Wannabe1]

Turnkey from $175,000 with a Subaru engine. Yikes!

[brett s]

Exactly how do they plan to legally offer a "turnkey" helicopter in the US when it's a non-certified kit?