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Old 07-16-2012, 10:42 AM
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Airmens Information Manual 2022 edition. PDF

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...bs/AIM/aim.pdf

Federal Aviation Regulations "Part 61"

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text....1.1.2&idno=14

Federal Aviation Regulations "Part 91"

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...1.3.10&idno=14
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:54 AM
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There is no "preferred method" for pre-rotation. There are lots of ways to get it done and it pays to keep an ear open for the guy that "found a better way." Each has drawbacks. The "holy grail" seems to be a device that will get your rotors to about 200RRPM (rotor RPM) without wind assistance. Few devices do that, though many get close.

A determining factor is going to be which engine you have. Some engines are easier to adapt to certain schemes. If, for example, you aren't going to have much of an electrical system, then I'd opt out of the electric starter-motor variety. These are experimental aircraft. It therefore pays to ask as many questions as you can and see and put your hands on as many of the variables as possible before you plunk down the cash.

Most airport FBO's or pilot shops have the current year copy of the FAR/AIM book. It is a monster and a horrid read, but worth having. Many of your questions will be answered definitively in that book.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:59 AM
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Vance, I didn't know the minimum duel hours of the total minimum hours needed for either licence, thanks for clarifying.
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I was reading a little into the handbook and was wondering what was the preferred method of pre-rotation? I saw they had an engine starter, some hydraulic and mechanical ones. If I am asking too many questions let me know. Otherwise I am a sponge. lol What engines has everyone else used in their gyroplane?
That's a little like going to a car show and asking a bunch of car enthusiasts what's the best kind of sprorts car to get. You will find there is GREAT Diversity when it comes to Gyroplanes. Since most are built and flown as Experimental Amateur Built machines (at least here in the US) people customize them and change stuff on them, all the time. Different engines, different pre-rotators, different sized pilots and altitudes flown from. There are thousands of different opinions on what is the best type of machine or the best pre-rotator, or exactly how you ought to go about it. Each machine will have different characteristics and what is the best technique to fly it depends on lots of different variables.

The best thing you could do to learn about Gyroplanes would be to make it a priority and take some vacation during the first week of Aug. and come to Mentone IN. for the PRA Convention. You will get a chance to see all different kinds of machines, to get some flights with different instructors and talk to hundreds of different people and get all their differing opinions first hand. I know that will cost you some time and some money and it's last minute and it won't be easy to get the time off, but if you don't make this a high priority, you aren't likely to end up being a Gyro Pilot anyway. It will be very innconvenient, and cost lots of money and be a challenge for you in many unique ways and only those that REALLY Want it Bad, typicaly are able to hang in there and pay the price that will eventually have to be paid. Your willingness to find a way to get to Mentone should tell you a lot about where you are at (attitude wise) and how likely you are to be successful in your quest to become a Gyro Pilot. I wish you all the luck in the world, but what you will really need is determination and committment to your goal. I hope you make it!
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:03 PM
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Troy, here are some pics when I was building the Corvanator.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:08 PM
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Doug, I will look into seeing if I can go. I think it would be a great time. No matter what I want or how dedicated I am in becoming a gyroplane pilot, I currently wont be able to be one. I don't have the money or storage to keep the thing. Seems every time I get some money saved up, something breaks on this house. lol But me not becoming one by the end of the year isn't going to take away my passion. I have to find a place where I could build and keep one. I am a planner so I like to plan things and do research before I jump in. I am going to get an hour instruction before I go spending thousands too to make darn sure I would love to fly a gyroplane.

Jay, awesome pics! That engine looked like it was fun to build. I did not know they had fuel seats. I read an article about a guy that caught on fire while flying over a school in a gyroplane and sacrificed his life to maneuver it away from the children. There wasn't much left. I see you went from a nose to an enclosed.

Jon, thank you for explaining to me that pretty much each gyroplane is custom built to the needs of the pilot and equipment being used.
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How's that thing flying ? Many hrs on her yet ?
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Old 07-17-2012, 05:22 AM
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Going with my fiance to get my first hour gyroplane instruction with Larry Banks. She is going to fly 1/2 hr too!
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:13 AM
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Chris, She hasn't taken to the sky's yet, she's ready for her airworthiness inspection.
I have 8 hours with Ron Menzie, and a whole week slated for training with Mike Burton the last week in August. It's been a long haul for this old man, nearly there.
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:57 PM
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does anyone have an details on this price list info for the dominator? I don't know if complete plans include tall tail or dvd etc.

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Complete Plans $175.00
Manual $100.00
Tall Tail Plans (Wooden) $35.00
DVD $10.00
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:49 PM
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