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Old 10-19-2015, 05:21 AM
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Nicolas,
How much (Euros or US dollars) is the kit without engine or instruments (per your previous post)?
How much extra does the 'speed pod' that Heath has shown add to the price?
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Old 10-19-2015, 06:23 AM
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quick built kit, just add instruments, wiring, engine, prop, radiator same as above... delivered and cleared from customs at nearest international airport with today's exchange rate 19000 US$ including rotor blades and mechanical prerotator capable of 230 RPM. This is our deluxe model much nicer and better finish than the A version.

as you see it in the picture.... of course dis-assembled for you to built in few days.

I do not understand what you mean with "speed pod"
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BOOSTER PREROTATOR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4gNx40-bE
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I am already in contact with them. Quick answer. Tks
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Old 10-19-2015, 12:53 PM
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Leigh

I am in touch with both Francis at the LAA and the Safety Group at the CAA with a view to undertaking a UK build of the CE model. The first one through is always going to be a bit of a mission but hopefully will be easier for subsequent builders. It's a slow process though as both the CAA and the LAA are extremely busy.
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Perhaps the question needs to be asked why gyros are not included in the single seat deregulation class.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:12 AM
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One step at a time! Single seat gyros need to build trust and credibility in official circles. Whether that is fair or not I have no idea - but it seems to be the case.
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:13 AM
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Officialdom needs to put trust in the individual to exercise personal responsibility. In such countries you'll find people constructing and flying gyros with modern thinking configurations.
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Old 10-20-2015, 02:45 PM
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Thanks Will, very glad to hear that it is at least being attempted. The Genesis has for some time appeared to be an extremely stable and sensibly designed machine.

Although the single seat market in the UK has seen a massive decline there are still those who wish to pursue this path, as much for the pleasure of flying a nimble single seater fun machine, as for the considerable savings it offers over the present selection of factory builds which are for the higher income bracket.
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Still keen to hear anything new on UK Certification. Was speaking to Francis Moyle down in Wales about the machine just before coming to Kenya to escape the winter and he certainly seemed interested in how it was doing...if it it doing. Be nice if it did get approval.
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Test frames are built in Cyprus and ready for test. Test sheets are currently with Francis Donaldson for approval. Once given, we will proceed to test. Tests are just the Section T structural ones at this stage.
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Thanks for the update Will, that’s great news.
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Just a thought, question I have with regard to the choice of engine for this single seat.

I know Nicolas has produced the Genesis with a 912 engine. What advantage/s, if any, would the 912IS Sport engine have over a standard 912?

I assume it would have a lower fuel consumption/greater range but this may or may not be true. Obviously at a greater cost.

Assuming that this UK project for approval does go ahead would it be possible to go for this engine.
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Hi Leigh

the 912iS engine is 100 Hp injected and costs telephone numbers

I think on a single seat machine, if you wanted good fuel economy maybe a small increase in power a secondhand 80hp 912 with a aftermarket FI kit like the one below might be worth a look:

http://www.ladaero.fr/
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Hi nicolas and Will do you have an empty weight and max take off weight ...and disk loading I would realy appreciate it as a group of single seat guys are considering the possibility of gyros being added to the microlight SSDR category in the UK. I dont want to propose a weight that would prevent the gen fallinging into that group. it may happen , it may not, but worth a try
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the 592 version is 195 Kg and the 912 is about 220 Kg empty. The sport is 5-12 Kg higher.

MTOW is 400 Kg.... but we are going for 350-360 Kg for the UK model....
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Dead stick landing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv9q6hlrzdk
G1sa 99 hour Testing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aykdaMqOPQ
Join me on-board G1sa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZLPL4sCuA

The 2 seat G2sa "Genesis Duo" early testflights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPw_3b-DeYI
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUxH7X77f64

BOOSTER PREROTATOR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4gNx40-bE
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