Tragedy at Reno.

Troll alert ! Done nothing. Knows everything. Will die in bed, from deep vein thrombosis, exacerbated by morbid negativity. Dont encourage him.
 
There will be reasonable questions asked about this. The position of the stands, on the outside of the race course, is the only way spectators can see the whole race. If something goes wrong at these speeds, especially in a high-G turn, odds are the pieces will travel outward, towards the crowd.

If you put all the seating in an infield, it might be safer for spectators, but would you buy a seat that had only a 90º or 120º field of view of the race?

Statistically, you are still more likely to die of drowning in your own bathtub than in a spectator area at Reno.

Life is always fatal. The real tragedy would be if it was always boring.
 
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Vance said:
Unfortunately you are not alone in your thoughts Albert.

It will be people like you who put an end to the Reno Air Race.

This is the first time a spectator has been killed at the Reno Air Races in 47 years.

More spectators have been killed driving to and from the Reno Air Races than were killed in Friday’s crash.

I am grateful that a 74 year old was not prevented from chasing his dreams.

I am inspired by his willingness to experiment.

If I were killed at the Reno Air Race I would not want it to end to prevent some future death.

Someone would have to be very stupid to imagine they can be close to that much power and speed and be completely safe.

No one is forced to attend the Reno Air Race, if they think like you Albert, they can stay home.

I hope that freedom prevails.

Thank you, Vance

Sir yes sir! Good words Vance. I share these thoughts but I'm to busy driving to respond more. ;)
 
I abhor ANY Big-Brother laws and I despise any person who advocates for them. Bit by bit those misguided "Big-Brother" pukes are taking away our freedom to choose, and replacing them with their own personal agendas.

As Vance said…"No one is forced to attend the Reno Air Race". Or any other exciting activity…...
 
My father from the age of 16 has been in Dirt track Racing as an owner & Driver & Reno with the Smirrnoff # 80 & # 90 proof Bearcats as a crew cheif mechanic.
Albert you have NO clue, None at all about "Risks & Rewards" . Seen more people waded up in the Grand stands by beer fights and knives-Than any accident from a machine.

You want to restrict my choise to Fly or race or to attend such an event, Who the "f" are you to want a law to restrict MY or another persons liberty?

I quess I will not want a device or machine built by you or any other short sighted
builder who will cut his own throat by trying to control others in the ideal of mob saftey.

Why don't you stop bathing or shaving as more accidents happen in the home.
 
The last time I went to the air races , not only did no one make me go , but I paid good money to do it . And the only reason I go is becouse you are right there . The planes are right there infront of your face . I can see them , hear them , feel them , smell them and taste them . Don't take away my right to take my 12 year old boy to the air races or air shows and experience all of it to the fullest because YOU ARE A PU$$Y .
 
I don’t believe advocating the closure of the event; my comments were directed at the owner-pilot allowing a heavily modified and potentially dangerous plane to fly , not only killing himself but scored of others too.

Unfortunately, the experts differ, lawsuits are already in place not only targeting the owner of the highly modified Galloping Ghost but the owners of the airport allowed the race happen. I believe in North America insurances are available for anything if you’ve got the money to pay for it, and in the same vein , if the Reno event does continue, the insurance liability for the pilots and the event organizers would be set extremely high thus kill the event in any way. By the way, I think casinos in Reno are safer; one only can lose all the money, of course, if stupid.

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Albert
 
And every day that goes by we get closer and closer to being more like china.
 
Man what is going on in your head? It's because of people like you that we have sooo many law suits. This is a tragic accident. The pilots wife and his children lost their husband and father and grandfather. The pain is horrendous for them. Let this lie.
But you are right it will be drug out in the courts for years so it will be in the headlines for years to come also. This is the first time that I can remember where the spectators were injured. Normally it is just the pilot that retires from the race. I sure don't want these events to suffer also. It is for our education and enjoyment to see these planes race. Have a happy life Albert.
 
my comments were directed at the owner-pilot
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Albert

He can't hear you Albert.

You can't seem to discern endangerment and dangerous.
He wasn't willingly endangering anyone but himself. It's the same for any motorsport event.

I'm ashamed that you would have the gall to even post here. It's disrespectful.
 
Albert, I think your views of the Reno Races being "experimental" are grossly mistaken. The races are an exhibition. You reduce the pilot to be an elderly frail man flying a contraption that should have never made it out of the back of someones shed. What a pathetic misrepresentation of the pilot's career, experience, and the technology he was flying. It wasn't an experiment and he wasn't up there screwing around as you attempt to portray. The show is a highly calculated event and **** happens. During an exhbition anything can go wrong. We know this. There has been an accident at Reno each year for at least the last three years. WE GET IT! Anyone that shows up, especially front and center, understand and accept inherent risks. It's a show.

Animal I think that was mean for your to call Albert a commie. Disagree with him all you want but don't abase.
 
Albert-The North American P-51 has a History of combat,The mods in a reno racer is well thought out & engineered, More than the junk you're used to. The pilot had more time and expreiance passed the required medicals, The elevators anti servo tab failed. And the accident happened, Albert YOU HAVE NO CLUE to the standards of an Experimental Exibition Certificate, Its not one of your copied PRSUs with little data on the assembly. 47 years of history at Reno for the Race, Over 60 years on the airframes with proven data. That is a heck of a lot more engeneering, Data,Testing, than the toys you produce. Albert You have no clue at all.
 
Albert, I think your views of the Reno Races being "experimental" are grossly mistaken. The races are an exhibition. You reduce the pilot to be an elderly frail man flying a contraption that should have never made it out of the back of someones shed. What a pathetic misrepresentation of the pilot's career, experience, and the technology he was flying. It wasn't an experiment and he wasn't up there screwing around as you attempt to portray. The show is a highly calculated event and **** happens. During an exhbition anything can go wrong. We know this. There has been an accident at Reno each year for at least the last three years. WE GET IT! Anyone that shows up, especially front and center, understand and accept inherent risks. It's a show.

Animal I think that was mean for your to call Albert a commie. Disagree with him all you want but don't abase.

The FAA is in charge of granting CoAs (certificates of airworthiness) for modifications, the Galloping Ghost was certified as "Experimental" class and therefor would not be subject to the sort of testing and so forth that would be required for GA planes or commercial passenger aircraft. This pilot, no matter how " Young at Heart" he felt was TOO OLD to be flying a 65 year old plane .Highly Modified, chopping off 5 feet from each wing, changing the canopy, and souping up the engine, to fly faster than it was ever designed for. I guess some people will address him has the word "Hero" or " Courageous" in it, he was neither, just RECKLESS, and no matter how much Grecian Formula he used....( see picture from 2010 in earlier articles) he was TOO OLD to be flying this plane, which pilots half his age would've had trouble controlling.

A 74 year old guy who was being subjected to several gees in each turn could very well have had a sudden physical problem. And tragedy results. It was a Disaster waiting to happen, and it did. And he is mainly to blame. The guy recklessly modified the plane and admitted himself that he wasn't sure the modifications would work. Further, I question the spectator mentality typified by this air event and NASCAR races: people sitting around almost worshiping machines- dangerous machines. The spectator culture sits and watches, and sometimes they get killed by these insane accidents that happen at entertainment events. What honor and usefulness is in that? What a waste of your life!

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Albert
 
Albert, where are you from originally?

Wayne

Latin America ,now (despite all the shortcoming) living in beautifully China. Others might disagree, but for me, this land has a promising future and would call it the best place in the world.

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Albert
 
I don’t believe advocating the closure of the event; my comments were directed at the owner-pilot allowing a heavily modified and potentially dangerous plane to fly , not only killing himself but scored of others too.

"Allowing"?
Every airplane in that competition is "heavily modified and potentially dangerous" to fly. These things were initially built as military fighter aircraft, intended to be lethal weapons and NEVER intended to be safe transportation for the pilot or for spectators. Their designers in the 1940s did not build them to be safe, or to eliminate the dangers in flying them, but to be effective weapons delivery systems. In their unmodified state they are old, demanding, and dangerous very-high-performance aircraft. None has been manufactured in over half a century. De-militarizing, rebuilding, and modifying for greater speed is the standard practice. The term "unlimited" class is used for a reason.

Restricting air racing to unmodified and not potentially dangerous aircraft would be tantamount to forcing Sebastien Vettel, Fernando Alonso, and Lewis Hamilton to drive the Formula 1 Grand Prix of China in Toyota Prius and Honda Civics limited to 65 mph.
 
If we have to explain it, then you will never understand it.
Now go hide under your bed Albert, for the sky is falling.
 
Albert-The North American P-51 has a History of combat,The mods in a reno racer is well thought out & engineered, More than the junk you're used to. The pilot had more time and expreiance passed the required medicals, The elevators anti servo tab failed. And the accident happened, Albert YOU HAVE NO CLUE to the standards of an Experimental Exibition Certificate, Its not one of your copied PRSUs with little data on the assembly. 47 years of history at Reno for the Race, Over 60 years on the airframes with proven data. That is a heck of a lot more engeneering, Data,Testing, than the toys you produce. Albert You have no clue at all.

What has this issues’ to do with our PSRU expect to say you don’t have a faintest clue of it. Interesting form someone claiming knowing all about mechanical properties now you are saying that a mechanical object designed to do A and then be modified to do B no matter what? I'm no airplane designer, but I did go to college and heard my physics professor say that every action has equal and opposite reaction (AKA Newton's third law).

Do you understand that when someone shaves off 5 feet of metal designed to keep an aircraft in the air, tradeoffs in structural integrity are inevitable?
That is exactly what killed this man and unfortunately many others, he turned an airplane into a rocket and tried to fly it horizontally and when parts stated to fall off, he shot straight up generating g-forces that would have dented a submarine hull, let alone a man's head. He probably lost consciousness long before he even realized what was going on.

That man willingly and knowingly tried to prove that laws of physics do not exist so he can win the race. Well, he was wrong, moreover, he went on record to say that untested modifications were radical and designed to surprise his competitors. Why don't you try to bolt a space shuttle engine to your car, hit pedal to the metal and see what happens. Please do let me know your address first so I can send flowers to your family along with my condolences.

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Albert
 
They have been shorting wings at the air races for years.
He wasn't flying at 40,000 feet.
 
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