Question for the Heli-People

[choppergabor]

Originally Posted by HobbyCAD

Now you are being more confusing than Heron....

My official statement, for the record, is as follows:

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$HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just shoot me............Not Heron man! Automan123456789 or anyone else but Heron! PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[James]

Stan, it has been a long time since I saw that heli fly, it was at a fly in, don't remember when or where, but If I remember right, this one was red. I think he might have worked for Rotorway at that time.

James Lee - TN

[HobbyCAD]

Hey Gabor, I'm back onto our healthy discussion .....

I do not think it fair to blanket condemn belt driven TR drives, nor cable actuated control systems. There are many experimental machines out there, aircraft, helicopters and gyro's, using of those systems. There are many flying very well, and others not even lifting off. I think you are letting personal preference dictate here, just because you don't like it does not mean it's bad for others. Belt drives are functioning perfectly in many designs, cable controls are again becoming very popular.

The first helicopter I ever tried to fly, was a Scorpion II, back in 1984. It had an Evinrude V-4 in it. It never got the skids off the ground. The second machine shortly after was an RW-133, and this is why I say Chris can have good fun with it. I remember fondly how we used to have to crank the $hit out of than engine to get it high enough to pop over the yard fence into the paddock, and hover it around. That was all it had power for, the exhaust elbows would start glowing red as we revved the daylights out of it. Never flew, only hovered, but we had a ton of fun !! Now you want to come along and say it's a worthless piece of junk, no siree, it gave us hours of pleasure, until I discovered a Bensen B-8 glider. That sidetracked me from flingwings, until I managed to fly a B-80. After seeing a mate badly injured when the hand propped Mac roared to life, and hit him on the shoulder, that was the end of gyro's. It then turned to Solar T62-32's, and you will love this, we wanted to put 2 into an old Hughes 269A.

As I clearly stated, it's up to the tinkerer to analyse the system he has, and make the decision if he want to improve on it. Who are we to say that anyone's basket of toys are a pile of junk. Amazing what some guys end up achieving.

[cbonnerup]

Good Comments and Criticism...Thanks again.
But as long as we're in the 'Coulda', Woulda', Shoulda' Deprtment; in deference to Gabor, I too have somewhat of a belt drive aversion. I was eying a Soob turbo EJ25 for the power plant, and if not doable some other way would use a suitable redundant HTD belt for the mains and design a 'stiff' (shaft) system for the tail.

Unfortunately I only have just so much of a tinkerer's budget, and this project has a buyer I am told. However, there are two units in a barn down the road and continue to wonder what the farmer is eventually going to do with them before he hurts himself. Heck the cabin alone would make a nice fairing for a sxs gyro...I think?

Chris

[buckwill]

james,, were u a propane man way back whenm,, did u buikld a benson with subaru engine?? EJ22??

[James]

Yes I did work for a propane co. and I built a Bensen with a Mac, but later changed over to the subaru EA82 and special made Skywheels. The last 30 years I worked for a natural gas co., was a pipeline integatry specialist, corrosion control specialist, after 30 years the SOB's canned me, but I was ready to go any way.

James Lee - TN