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05-23-2012, 05:02 AM
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The official contact with Celier Aviation :)
Hello all fans of Xenon Gyrocopters produced by Celier Aviation.
My name is Christopher Wronowski and I come from Polish. I'm one of the partners CA. I am responsible for marketing and advertising company. I'm here to help current and prospective users of Xenon in dealing with the factory. We are happy to answer your question. Feel free to discuss. 
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05-23-2012, 06:03 AM
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Hi Kris
We are glad to have you here!!!!
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05-23-2012, 10:34 AM
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It would be a shame if this forum is used as a public anger forum for the recent "divorce" between AT and RC.
In the interests of balance you have two choices ( in no particular order ) a) Aviation Artur Trendak - continues to build "Xenon" at the original factory site - the gyro now renamed "Zen1" - see certificates from Polish CAA on the new web site - has delivered approx 8-10 gyros so far in 2012 http://autogyro.eu/ b) Celier Aviation - new production factory being set up in 2012, see new website http://www.celieraviation.pl/ If you look at the dealers associated with both of these companies you will see a large degree of overlap at the moment - not sure how all this will pan out over time ! Two choices - enjoy
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05-23-2012, 11:09 AM
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Steve
Thank You for providing the information. That 2 former partners split is not my issue. My issue is, who supports my parts and technical customer service needs. I have no dog in this fight other than as a customer. Mark
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05-23-2012, 12:01 PM
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Competition is good and important - that created the market more consumer friendly.
Unfortunately, this situation is such that one partner is "tricked" the second and took over the company in an illegal manner and without accounting knowledge with anyone ... Celier Aviation is not new - it is as long as Raphael Celier designs and manufactures equipment and exactly flying since 1993 look:  Original page www.celieraviation.eu is the same side that accompanied the CA for many years. In my opinion the market will determine who in the future will want to buy, or from the designer - the new, ever more modern and better designs, or "dead" is not modernized machine from chicker. In Celier Aviation engineers have been two of the best designers - Peter and Michael Skrzynski Stepnicki and as for Arthur, a hard right but right - unfortunately, it requires time and money thrown away on lawyers ...
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05-24-2012, 03:36 AM
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A bunch of bad mouth to former partner instead. Not a good start for a forum newbee. 
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05-24-2012, 09:12 AM
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Alek sorry, but I wrote about this in another thread ...
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34031
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06-05-2012, 06:20 AM
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Important information:
Celier Aviation Company Sp. zoo has signed an partnership agreement of cooperation with Zeszuta Sport Sp. zoo. http://www.zeszuta.pl Company Zeszuta Sp. zoo is a Mercedes Group production facility. It has in the past built special buses, armored vehicles and ambulances. Zeszuta will from now onwards perform the final assembling manufacture of the Celier Aviation Xenon Gyrocopters. This will ensure the highest standards of all products of Celier Aviation. The robust, ISO and AQUAP certification and the production time per piece will be shortened to about two weeks. The production capacity will amount to more than 100 units per year. We produce three types of machines: Xenon 2 seats Generation II Basic Xenon 2 seats Generation IV Sport Xenon 2 seats Generation IV Executive Xenon 3 seats Generation IV XL At the following link you can find current prices and options: http://celieraviation.eu/configurators     Read more clic
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06-05-2012, 06:51 AM
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Engine Options
What engine is the "MW M22 130hp" option?
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06-05-2012, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
http://www.pattersonaerosales.com/PD...rochEngPAS.pdf
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06-05-2012, 10:20 AM
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http://www.mwfly.it/index_file/MWFLMEPAGE.htm Also being tested by Magni in Orion since beginning 2011. I personally never heard about it before. How many flying? How reliable?
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06-05-2012, 10:35 AM
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How many flying? - less than the number of Rotax 912 by a country mile that's for sure !
Why change from a tried and tested engine and tried and tested supplier - money I guess. The MW appears to have a few more horses but is it reliable, can you get spare parts, can you get it serviced easily.
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06-05-2012, 11:20 AM
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MW Motors is a modern design - dedicated to aviation. Based on the robust R & D. Short list of differences between Rotax and MW: -1150 cc versus 2100 cc -more torque -electronic injection -weight only 6 kg heavier than the Rotax -bearings instead of bushings -and more possibilites to gain more potential power than 150 HP...
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