My Aero 2012 report

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Originally Posted by Aviomania

Fara Hi.

the characteristics of a gyroplane are governed by rotor aerodynamics, frame aerodynamics and applied forces.

So... i would agree with Kai on this one. Since the rotor, the tail and there position are identical to MT ...as the layout and system positioning are very similar it REALLY IS a copy of an MT / ELA.

yes you have some variations and improvements (like the 41xx steel, lower thrust line?? ?? etc), but it will still fly very similar to the ones it was ........ "inspired" from.

Having a different make up on (cabin, landing gear etc) does not make it a different gyroplane.... in other words... this is not a "white paper design"

please understand that this is not a criticism... it is just my observation... I normally do not participate in this type of discussions.

Well having a different thrust line changes a lot.
Secondly the position of the tail is not exactly the same as MTO either. There is about a 5 inch difference.
A difference there can be made up by area. So position by itself is not the end all of achieving certain effects. It's a pretty straight forward square speed relationship. One can have a different center of position and get similar flight character. Very well known in any airplane design also. The main thing is to get it where you can achieve proper dynamic stability and effective rudder and coordinated yaw roll coupling.

Of course it's not a white paper design. Nor is MTO.

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Originally Posted by Andrey S

As I was told by Apollo representative at Aero, they buy the whole rotor system from Auto-gyro. No changes, 100% German production.

LOL. That makes sense. But why would autogiro sell them the whole system. Sure looks like that they did though.
But in any case, there are many sources of getting rotors from both US and within Europe. Halley itself is very capable of making them themselves in composite as well.