Angie
Member
Thanks to all who brought this thread back on track.
He spoke to Joe Swanton and was instructed to have the card endorsed by his CFI Greg Gremminger before he would receive his "dot" and be allowed to fly at the airport. At the time of the accident Greg was not there and apparently Steve did not either fully understand he could not fly or just ignored the rules that had just been plainly spelled out at the briefing.
.....When the dust settles and this whole thing unfolds I will accept an apology from each of you, (somehow I doubt I will get so much as one only more insults as if I was the cause of the whole thing from 900 miles away ?)
likewise if I am wrong I will publicly do same. However unless the database is way wrong, and I have a hard time believing it is after...years, hmmm.....
J
Last word from me on this.
Hey Jonathan. You have a short memory. You posted this back on post number 51? We'd appreciate it if you'd keep your word.
The only reason I am picking on the PRA is because it is a PRA sponsored event.....
Prove to me the accident pilot was a properly rated pilot with more than 50 hours under his belt and I will take it all back.
Jonathan
Well he did in fact have his rating... sounds like someones eating crow. :der:
Ok,Ron.......sounds like he was legal NOT !!!....:der:
Oh come on,I pointed out the truth in another thread, we all know Ron paid Steve to be a kamikaze pilot and take out the competition for the climb contest.
that 618 Dom might have gave Ron a run for his money with Matt at the controls.
J/K
I thought Mentone was a privately owned airport and you have to get permission to fly their. We members own it. I know over the years they have not let people fly because they could not get a CFI to sign them off and a pass card. They would not let Racer fly this year until he went up with Ron Award and Racer had a sign off from a CFI he made sure he understood the rules before he drove 22 hours and had the right paper work so he could fly. PRA did not like the CFI that had signed him off. I'm sure Ron can confirm this. Is that why we have the pass cards and then get the dots so that the airboss will know that we are legal to fly and he will not let you fly if you do not have this dot even if you flew in. Maybe I have this all wrong and someone will surely set me straight here.
I do not have his record in front of me but if he was told to see a CFI to get signed off, something is not right.
Jonathan
I thought Mentone was a privately owned airport and you have to get permission to fly their. We members own it. I know over the years they have not let people fly because they could not get a CFI to sign them off and a pass card. They would not let Racer fly this year until he went up with Ron Award and Racer had a sign off from a CFI he made sure he understood the rules before he drove 22 hours and had the right paper work so he could fly. PRA did not like the CFI that had signed him off. I'm sure Ron can confirm this. Is that why we have the pass cards and then get the dots so that the airboss will know that we are legal to fly and he will not let you fly if you do not have this dot even if you flew in. Maybe I have this all wrong and someone will surely set me straight here.
I find value in Jonathan’s posts and this thread has over 5,000 hits so apparently others at least find entertainment in the exchange.
He is able to see things that have eluded me and state them in a way that I am sometimes able to imagine them.
It is no wonder he is a little gruff with the darkness he sees around him.
I admire his ability to state fantasy as though it were fact and continue forward when each of these facts is dismantled.
I would not want to be the style or etiquette police as I often lack style myself.
Some here have not been nice to him and do what they are accusing him of doing and yet he comes back for more, validating my hypothesis that insults and degradation are not effective in modifying behavior.
Thank you, Vance