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Vendors and CFI's ok you say that what the fly-ins are for. then I ask this where the hell where you. I was very disappointed that the only open frame CFI there was Chris burgess, great guy btw. but to be honest I could not even afford a whole hour with him.
as pointed out earlyer I as offered a Ride with Ron,but chose to fly with Chris so I could log the time. chris was so booked that by the time he had a chance to fly me, the winds had shifted again and screwed up my flight. I did not want to fly with a cross wind.
now you tell me, here I am a paying customers cash in hand and he was booked solid, so how does Ron take money out of anyones pocket if they are booked solid?
Vendors, god what a joke that was, I only saw 3 Ernie selling his stuff, john snider selling an $80.00 dvd of flying the helicopter and a guy selling a toy gyro . heck there was only about 4 things in the fly market, I was hopeing to find a nice control stick grip or maybe find some used 27 foot blades at a good price. but there just was nothing there. so don't complain about loseing money if you are NOT there!
and I bet after a ride in Ron's gyro Ernie will probably get more sales out of it.
I really wanted to fly with Rusty Nance in his gyro, had even asked about getting up with him in s.c. sometime, but his reply was he has been busy and not done any training lately and then at mentone his gyro was not running right, so right there is why I then went with Chris.
Steve if you had been there I would have loved to have flown in the Black and like i said I was wanting to talk to ya in person about some things. but sadly you did not make it.
My first year to mentone and it was a flop. I enjoyed the people I met, but over all I can say there have been about as good a turn outs at ROC in the past.
I did have fun but not as much as I thought I would. I was expecting rows of used parts and rows of aircraft.
Now back to rates, anyone every think if ya lower the rates you might get alot more students and make it up in volume.
I for one know that I just can not afford $170.00 an hour and I don't care what ya say I know that a gyro is not costing that much to run as a helicopter, seems the CFI's are trying to charge helicopter rates for an aircraft that is more in line as a fixed wing to operate.
I bet if the rates where lower and ya did some simple advertiseing in the local papers you would have more students then you can handle.
then a student has to figure in travel expences and that jacks it up even more. and most CFI's will not travel to the students.
I have had several times that I have had more then one person that said they would pay for block time, but they don't have the extra to travel and pay for motel.
I bet if i took out and add in the local free trader papers saying ,are you intrested in flying in a gyroplane,I would be swamped with calls. same note why don't we see gyroplane demos at local airshows. the students are out there,just the CFI's are not seeking them out, and the average person that may have an intrest in gyros has no clue how to find and instructior, sure you say just look on line. but lets face it there are alot of people still not online.
so what my point is the work is work there, but it seems the CFI's are just waiting for the students to find them and not really seeking the student out.
why not start a sticky thread where the CFI's can post there rates, where they are located how to contact them. if they are willing to travel, or have a place to stay near by and what they fly and what they offer in the training.
all I am saying is it pays to advertise. and you HAVE TO BE AT THE EVENTS to get the customers.
as pointed out earlyer I as offered a Ride with Ron,but chose to fly with Chris so I could log the time. chris was so booked that by the time he had a chance to fly me, the winds had shifted again and screwed up my flight. I did not want to fly with a cross wind.
now you tell me, here I am a paying customers cash in hand and he was booked solid, so how does Ron take money out of anyones pocket if they are booked solid?
Vendors, god what a joke that was, I only saw 3 Ernie selling his stuff, john snider selling an $80.00 dvd of flying the helicopter and a guy selling a toy gyro . heck there was only about 4 things in the fly market, I was hopeing to find a nice control stick grip or maybe find some used 27 foot blades at a good price. but there just was nothing there. so don't complain about loseing money if you are NOT there!
and I bet after a ride in Ron's gyro Ernie will probably get more sales out of it.
I really wanted to fly with Rusty Nance in his gyro, had even asked about getting up with him in s.c. sometime, but his reply was he has been busy and not done any training lately and then at mentone his gyro was not running right, so right there is why I then went with Chris.
Steve if you had been there I would have loved to have flown in the Black and like i said I was wanting to talk to ya in person about some things. but sadly you did not make it.
My first year to mentone and it was a flop. I enjoyed the people I met, but over all I can say there have been about as good a turn outs at ROC in the past.
I did have fun but not as much as I thought I would. I was expecting rows of used parts and rows of aircraft.
Now back to rates, anyone every think if ya lower the rates you might get alot more students and make it up in volume.
I for one know that I just can not afford $170.00 an hour and I don't care what ya say I know that a gyro is not costing that much to run as a helicopter, seems the CFI's are trying to charge helicopter rates for an aircraft that is more in line as a fixed wing to operate.
I bet if the rates where lower and ya did some simple advertiseing in the local papers you would have more students then you can handle.
then a student has to figure in travel expences and that jacks it up even more. and most CFI's will not travel to the students.
I have had several times that I have had more then one person that said they would pay for block time, but they don't have the extra to travel and pay for motel.
I bet if i took out and add in the local free trader papers saying ,are you intrested in flying in a gyroplane,I would be swamped with calls. same note why don't we see gyroplane demos at local airshows. the students are out there,just the CFI's are not seeking them out, and the average person that may have an intrest in gyros has no clue how to find and instructior, sure you say just look on line. but lets face it there are alot of people still not online.
so what my point is the work is work there, but it seems the CFI's are just waiting for the students to find them and not really seeking the student out.
why not start a sticky thread where the CFI's can post there rates, where they are located how to contact them. if they are willing to travel, or have a place to stay near by and what they fly and what they offer in the training.
all I am saying is it pays to advertise. and you HAVE TO BE AT THE EVENTS to get the customers.